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日航機事故の右旋回は正しかった?

   

1.名前: タイガースープレックス(秋田県)@\(^o^)/sage
投稿日:2016/08/12(金) 09:12:33.04 ID:DPVpR3KF0.net BE:194767121-PLT(12001) ポイント特典

sssp://img.2ch.sc/ico/nida.gif
520人が犠牲になった日航機墜落事故は12日、発生から31年となった。遺族らは早朝から
墜落現場となった群馬県上野村の「御巣鷹の尾根」に登り、故人の冥福を祈った。
 標高約1560メートルの尾根には、険しい斜面に多数の墓標が点在する。遺族らは
登山口から山道を約800メートル登ってそれぞれの墓標に花を手向けた。(2016/08/12-08:18)

http://www.jiji.com/jc/article?k=2016081200052&g=soc

2.名前: ローリングソバット(兵庫県)@\(^o^)/sage
投稿日:2016/08/12(金) 09:15:39.39 ID:nx4UwWaG0.net

GPSすらないんだから海行って捜索範囲が無駄に広がるよりいいんでね?

3.名前: ダイビングエルボードロップ(庭)@\(^o^)/sage
投稿日:2016/08/12(金) 09:15:45.97 ID:34wDynPY0.net

山厨かよ

4.名前: オリンピック予選スラム(茸)@\(^o^)/
投稿日:2016/08/12(金) 09:18:19.48 ID:W07gkp/I0.net

はい

5.名前: ウエスタンラリアット(関東・甲信越)@\(^o^)/
投稿日:2016/08/12(金) 09:18:34.26 ID:GdnyYtRJO.net

ライトターン!(まだ若干ハイドロ有り)

6.名前: ダイビングフットスタンプ(やわらか銀行)@\(^o^)/
投稿日:2016/08/12(金) 09:24:41.72 ID:cYTlWY6S0.net

海山左右論争

7.名前: セントーン(禿)@\(^o^)/
投稿日:2016/08/12(金) 09:31:24.25 ID:w+8ZEfKF0.net

はいはい海海

8.名前: 毒霧(家)@\(^o^)/
投稿日:2016/08/12(金) 09:33:36.80 ID:it7nAjEX0.net

右旋回いってみよう、左旋回みつけよう~

9.名前: タイガースープレックス(福岡県)@\(^o^)/sage
投稿日:2016/08/12(金) 09:35:55.45 ID:IV+mFy9+0.net

この手のスレには必ず自衛隊の誤射説唱えるキチガイが湧くよね

10.名前: ダブルニードロップ(香港)@\(^o^)/sage
投稿日:2016/08/12(金) 09:37:24.24 ID:PFM+RM/40.net

>>2
海面の方が胴体着陸できて生存の可能性が上がったんじゃないか?
という論争が昔からあるんだよ。

11.名前: デンジャラスバックドロップ(庭)@\(^o^)/
投稿日:2016/08/12(金) 09:39:13.06 ID:tpsnpu2z0.net

>>2
位置情報ならINS(慣性誘導)があるが、地上レーダーじゃね?

スポンサーリンク

12.名前: クロスヒールホールド(SB-iPhone)@\(^o^)/
投稿日:2016/08/12(金) 09:43:36.81 ID:YiEW+X5v0.net

パイロットが機体の損壊状況把握できてないんだから羽田空港にもどって着陸できると信じてるから右行くよね。

13.名前: ヒップアタック(庭)@\(^o^)/
投稿日:2016/08/12(金) 09:45:02.63 ID:cwj32+1c0.net

フラップアップ

14.名前: ムーンサルトプレス(庭)@\(^o^)/sage
投稿日:2016/08/12(金) 09:45:45.39 ID:lB5jQR5i0.net

当時、静岡空港があったらな

15.名前: ブラディサンデー(東京都)@\(^o^)/sage
投稿日:2016/08/12(金) 09:45:56.59 ID:erwdNJVs0.net

上げてます!(怒

16.名前: ミラノ作 どどんスズスロウン(中部地方)@\(^o^)/sage
投稿日:2016/08/12(金) 09:46:43.13 ID:ov/V448t0.net

結局は墜ちるから、どっち回っても一緒だったような
他巻き込まなかっただけでも良しとしないとな

乗ってた人の気持ちを思うとホントに心苦しいけどな…

17.名前: ドラゴンスリーパー(庭)@\(^o^)/sage
投稿日:2016/08/12(金) 09:49:12.76 ID:lCbFP0110.net

海ならスレスレで薄めに着陸したら山に突っ込むよりイメージ的にうまく胴体着陸できそうだけどなあ

18.名前: TEKKAMAKI(SB-iPhone)@\(^o^)/sage
投稿日:2016/08/12(金) 09:51:17.51 ID:rA8E5tGI0.net

エンジンの出力しか操作出来ないのに右も左もあるかい

19.名前: ときめきメモリアル(神奈川県)@\(^o^)/sage
投稿日:2016/08/12(金) 09:53:06.25 ID:Yd17l6CG0.net

>>9
「陰謀論ワロス」って思ってはいるけど正直知識が無いから俺は反論出来なかったわ
オレンジエアってのがぶつかったからって言ってもそもそも飛行機になんかぶつかったらそのままきりもみに落ちそうな気がするんだが

20.名前: ナガタロックII(チベット自治区)@\(^o^)/
投稿日:2016/08/12(金) 09:53:30.87 ID:UIv58jnB0.net

>>18
これ
実際は好きで内陸に行ったわけではない

21.名前: ニールキック(庭)@\(^o^)/
投稿日:2016/08/12(金) 09:54:51.90 ID:uuxzGlCJ0.net

はい

22.名前: ミッドナイトエクスプレス(catv?)@\(^o^)/sage
投稿日:2016/08/12(金) 09:56:43.53 ID:cVIphgxE0.net

海行っても沈むからな

23.名前: 急所攻撃(福岡県)@\(^o^)/sage
投稿日:2016/08/12(金) 09:59:47.64 ID:DH8n2pAq0.net

>>10
海面って波があるんだが知ってる?

24.名前: バズソーキック(SB-iPhone)@\(^o^)/sage
投稿日:2016/08/12(金) 10:00:49.32 ID:8hykcjFx0.net

>>9
それどころか自衛隊と米軍による純粋水爆説なんてアホを通り越した説まで闊歩してるよ。

25.名前: 急所攻撃(福岡県)@\(^o^)/sage
投稿日:2016/08/12(金) 10:03:34.95 ID:DH8n2pAq0.net

厨房が水なら柔らかいじゃん理論で海にとかいうが、あの質量の物体に数百キロのスピード、普通の着陸でも遊道が必要なのに
絶えず波打ち高さが替わる海にスレスレで胴体着陸とか想像力が欠けてるとしか思えない

26.名前: ミドルキック(庭)@\(^o^)/sage
投稿日:2016/08/12(金) 10:05:03.05 ID:G1NKaJzU0.net

そろそろ新しいネタを

27.名前: ミッドナイトエクスプレス(空)@\(^o^)/sage
投稿日:2016/08/12(金) 10:08:00.65 ID:1IOp4yCr0.net

落ちる前提じゃなかったら右旋回は正しい
横田も厚木もあるからな

まぁ厚木じゃコントロール出来ても747じゃオーバーラン必至だが

28.名前: ウエスタンラリアット(catv?)@\(^o^)/sage
投稿日:2016/08/12(金) 10:09:40.70 ID:tOYj72HU0.net

米軍による撃墜
資料を読めばわかる

29.名前: デンジャラスバックドロップ(庭)@\(^o^)/
投稿日:2016/08/12(金) 10:11:20.24 ID:tpsnpu2z0.net

そういえばハドソン川の奇跡が映画化されるな。



そりゃ海と川、昼と夜じゃ条件が違って当たり前だが、ハドソン川みたいに全員助かれってんじゃない。
山に突っ込むよりゃ生存者は多かろうさ。

30.名前: 閃光妖術(大阪府)@\(^o^)/sage
投稿日:2016/08/12(金) 10:13:40.77 ID:ZXSqVOCU0.net

>>2
GPSなんかなくとも位置は管制が捕捉してるだろ…

31.名前: パロスペシャル(西日本)@\(^o^)/
投稿日:2016/08/12(金) 10:15:58.65 ID:Ry1PnAnTO.net

>>21
はいじゃないが

32.名前: バックドロップ(茸)@\(^o^)/
投稿日:2016/08/12(金) 10:16:37.85 ID:1X8aVwte0.net

今の飛行機で同じトラブル起きたらやっぱり墜ちるのかね

33.名前: 16文キック(長屋)@\(^o^)/
投稿日:2016/08/12(金) 10:16:50.89 ID:VPO0rlGo0.net

乗務員は垂直尾翼がすっ飛んだなんて夢にも思わなかった。
近くの飛行場に緊急着陸する必要があったんだから、ターンライトは当然だ。

34.名前: タイガードライバー(関東地方)@\(^o^)/sage
投稿日:2016/08/12(金) 10:17:56.47 ID:J9sTyyM4O.net

>>17
また海厨か。海は沈むんだぜ。それに夜間だし、発見と救助に時間かかれば同じ。

35.名前: ジャンピングDDT(神奈川県)@\(^o^)/
投稿日:2016/08/12(金) 10:18:12.97 ID:Tz02AMXj0.net

>>32

次こそは海へ行ってくれる、そう教育してると信じてル!

36.名前: 急所攻撃(福岡県)@\(^o^)/sage
投稿日:2016/08/12(金) 10:19:55.97 ID:DH8n2pAq0.net

>>29
だからそれは離陸直後で高度もなく姿勢も保てたわけだが、日航機は高度数千メートルからの降下だぞ

37.名前: デンジャラスバックドロップ(庭)@\(^o^)/
投稿日:2016/08/12(金) 10:20:24.13 ID:tpsnpu2z0.net

>>34
山にドーンと行くより生存確率は高かろうさ。
>>29

38.名前: デンジャラスバックドロップ(庭)@\(^o^)/
投稿日:2016/08/12(金) 10:21:19.32 ID:tpsnpu2z0.net

>>36
高度数千メートルから山とどちらがいいかの話やで。
全員助かれって言ってるじゃないんだ。

39.名前: ジャンピングDDT(神奈川県)@\(^o^)/
投稿日:2016/08/12(金) 10:23:23.30 ID:Tz02AMXj0.net

垂直尾翼がふっとんだら自動で海を目指す装置つけろや日航は

40.名前: 急所攻撃(福岡県)@\(^o^)/sage
投稿日:2016/08/12(金) 10:23:37.71 ID:DH8n2pAq0.net

>>38
海なら生きてても機体に巻き込まれて溺死、運よく機外に放り出されても真っ黒の海で溺死

41.名前: フライングニールキック(北海道)@\(^o^)/
投稿日:2016/08/12(金) 10:24:29.29 ID:Gz4Lpq/c0.net

この飛行機やべぇってなってからかなり飛び続けてたんでしょ?
地獄だよね

42.名前: 急所攻撃(福岡県)@\(^o^)/sage
投稿日:2016/08/12(金) 10:25:08.32 ID:DH8n2pAq0.net

>>38
もうひとつ。夜間運航のフェリーとかに乗ってみろ、夜の海に落ちたら人溜まりもないなと実感する

43.名前: リバースネックブリーカー(新疆ウイグル自治区)@\(^o^)/
投稿日:2016/08/12(金) 10:25:26.32 ID:YKkjOxZy0.net

これはダメかもわからんね

44.名前: フランケンシュタイナー(dion軍)@\(^o^)/
投稿日:2016/08/12(金) 10:26:13.31 ID:n3SYdzCK0.net

プラザ合意

45.名前: 閃光妖術(大阪府)@\(^o^)/sage
投稿日:2016/08/12(金) 10:26:16.95 ID:ZXSqVOCU0.net

操縦困難でハードランディングするにしても地面が数百メートルの凸凹と真っ平らでは難易度全然ちがうぞ

46.名前: フェイスクラッシャー(やわらか銀行)@\(^o^)/
投稿日:2016/08/12(金) 10:26:51.76 ID:FhqvHc2n0.net

右旋回は当時、東から?の強風の影響じゃないかってTVでやってた
爆発直後から操縦不能だったらしい
違うっけ?

47.名前: フェイスロック(新疆ウイグル自治区)@\(^o^)/
投稿日:2016/08/12(金) 10:26:54.32 ID:BxAD7eEb0.net

>>45
真っ平らではない

48.名前: シャイニングウィザード(SB-iPhone)@\(^o^)/sage
投稿日:2016/08/12(金) 10:28:14.67 ID:5vZZuhag0.net

どっちに曲がっても殆どの乗客はお亡くなりになります。設計ミスだと思う

49.名前: オリンピック予選スラム(山陽地方)@\(^o^)/
投稿日:2016/08/12(金) 10:28:22.53 ID:y7PGp9GlO.net

操縦前提なんだ

飛んでられたのが奇跡って聞いてたけどな

50.名前: 閃光妖術(大阪府)@\(^o^)/sage
投稿日:2016/08/12(金) 10:29:11.62 ID:ZXSqVOCU0.net

>>47
山と比べたら真っ平らだわ
屁理屈レベル

51.名前: リバースネックブリーカー(新疆ウイグル自治区)@\(^o^)/
投稿日:2016/08/12(金) 10:29:32.51 ID:YKkjOxZy0.net

ドキドキしながら暗い部屋でイヤホンしながら見てた15歳の夏休み 川上慶子さんかわいかったなあ(*^O^*)

52.名前: フェイスロック(新疆ウイグル自治区)@\(^o^)/
投稿日:2016/08/12(金) 10:30:17.68 ID:BxAD7eEb0.net

>>50
あの状況ではどのみち助からないので右だ左だ言ってる時点で屁理屈レベル

53.名前: エルボーバット(新疆ウイグル自治区)@\(^o^)/
投稿日:2016/08/12(金) 10:30:21.67 ID:13WEJJii0.net

舵効かないじゃん

54.名前: ニーリフト(千葉県)@\(^o^)/sage
投稿日:2016/08/12(金) 10:30:41.30 ID:9MYnkBz90.net

山派大勝利

55.名前: デンジャラスバックドロップ(庭)@\(^o^)/
投稿日:2016/08/12(金) 10:31:47.29 ID:tpsnpu2z0.net

>>42
数百キロで山に突っ込むのとの比較だぜ。

56.名前: タイガードライバー(関東地方)@\(^o^)/sage
投稿日:2016/08/12(金) 10:31:58.37 ID:J9sTyyM4O.net

>>37
高くない。実際墜落直後は生存者はたくさんいたが、救助が朝になりほとんど息絶えた。

海は海で問題がある。機体は沈むし、夏でも夜間の海は冷たい。救助も早く出来ると断言出来ない以上、海の方がいいなんて言えない。

57.名前: フェイスロック(新疆ウイグル自治区)@\(^o^)/
投稿日:2016/08/12(金) 10:32:32.33 ID:BxAD7eEb0.net

>>55
数百キロの速さで海面に叩きつけられたらやっぱり死ぬで

58.名前: ファルコンアロー(千葉県)@\(^o^)/
投稿日:2016/08/12(金) 10:32:39.92 ID:jMc5P9mT0.net

尾翼なし油圧なしエンジン出力上げ下げだけで機首から海に突っ込んでも結局粉々で生存者も0になってた

59.名前: 16文キック(庭)@\(^o^)/sage
投稿日:2016/08/12(金) 10:33:14.99 ID:1/V9AfHR0.net

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