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  • 【画像】レムの着物フィギュア、とんでもない値段になってしまう! 一桁間違ってるだろ・・・
  • 【急募】100日後に死ぬワニのオチ
  • 夏菜さん(30)、ガチのマジで破裂しそうwwwwwwwwwwwwww(画像あり)
  • 「万象一切灰燼と為せ」←これよりカッコいい前口上が無い件についてwwwwwwwwwwwwwww…
  • ワンピース2年後のサンジさん、ガチで戦闘面で戦力外になる
  • 【画像】進撃の巨人のラスボス、ついに登場! カッコいいwwwwww
  • 【画像】処女捨てたばかりの京都の19歳女子大生さん、顔出し乳首画像を公開され絶望 他
  • 【狂気】沖縄の風ぞくの実態がヤバイ・・・JCが・・・・ 他
  • 【悲報】小池百合子都知事、ついにブチギレ「出歩くな。これは警告だ」【議論】|まとめのお仕事 他
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  • 【画像】吉野家にクズ現れる、本当に日本人か? 他
  • 【画像】妹の友達が遊びにきたwwwwwwwwww 他
  • 台風15号で倒壊したゴルフ場 オーナーは今も責任とる気なし 隣接する16軒のマイホームオーナー達は…
  • 古市憲寿「母親が責められるのは分かるけど、離婚した父親にも責任があるのではないか」 3歳娘の餓…
  • 【画像】西日本さん、謎の怪物に覆われてしまう
  • 【速報】F35戦闘機、大量に日本へ!!!!!
  • 女の子に殴られて殴り返すのは男らしくないって風潮あるけど
  • 【自動車】テスラのマスクCEO、完全自動運転車の実現は「非常に近い
  • 「初デートで鳥貴族、私は安く見られているの?」20代後半女性の投稿に批判相次ぐ・・・
  • 【閲覧注意】子供の頃に無性に怖かったものwwwwww

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  • 【衝撃】2万パチスロで負けてからが凄かったwww
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  • 【えち画像】花澤香菜がこのエチエチ身体を好き放題されているという事実www
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  • 【画像】この巨乳女子に「すいません、ごはんおかわりしてもいいですか?」って聞かれたらどうする??

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【超速報】ヒラリー・クリントン勝っていた

   

1.名前: シューティングスタープレス(東京都)@\(^o^)/ [US]
投稿日:2016/11/16(水) 22:02:01.07 ID:sCsBxIX80●.net BE:583472408-PLT(14015) ポイント特典

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敗者が100万票以上リード=民主に制度見直し論-米大統領選

時事通信 11/16(水) 14:38配信

 【ワシントン時事】米インターネットメディア「クック・ポリティカル・リポート」によると、8日に行われた米大統領選の開票で、民主党候補だったクリントン前国務長官の得票数でのリードが15日、100万票を超えた。

 民主党内では、選挙結果は民意を反映していないと批判し、大統領選挙人制度の見直しを求める声が出ている。

 米大統領選は全米50州と首都ワシントンに割り当てられた計538人の選挙人のうち、過半数の270人を獲得した候補が当選する仕組み。
ただ、選挙人の割当数は完全には人口に比例しておらず、2州を除いて、得票1位の候補がその地区の選挙人を総取りするため、得票数と獲得選挙人数の逆転が起きることがある。

 同リポートの集計では、クリントン氏は15日夜の時点で6231万8079票を獲得している。
これに対し、共和党候補だったトランプ次期大統領の得票数は6116万6063票。しかし、獲得選挙人数ではトランプ氏が290人で、232人のクリントン氏を上回っている。

 米メディアによると、得票数と獲得選挙人数の勝者が食い違ったのは史上5例目。開票作業はまだ続いており、クリントン氏のリードは最終的に200万票を超えるとの推計もある。

 民主党のボクサー上院議員は15日、声明を発表し、「選挙人制度は時代遅れで、非民主的だ」と強調。

選挙人制度を廃止し、得票数で勝者を決められるようにする憲法改正案を上院に提出した。ただ、共和党内で賛同する声は出ておらず、成立の可能性は極めて低い。

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2.名前: シューティングスタープレス(東京都)@\(^o^)/ [US]
投稿日:2016/11/16(水) 22:02:27.01 ID:sCsBxIX80.net

ファッ!?

3.名前: 河津落とし(東京都)@\(^o^)/ [DE]sage
投稿日:2016/11/16(水) 22:02:37.74 ID:YMWSFsJA0.net

ヒラリー実質的大勝利!

4.名前: 張り手(東京都)@\(^o^)/ [JP]
投稿日:2016/11/16(水) 22:02:43.67 ID:y1r3ocAT0.net

負け犬の遠吠え
負け惜しみ

5.名前: シューティングスタープレス(東京都)@\(^o^)/ [US]
投稿日:2016/11/16(水) 22:02:47.62 ID:sCsBxIX80.net

工エエェェ(´д`)ェェエエ工

6.名前: ツームストンパイルドライバー(東京都)@\(^o^)/ [RU]
投稿日:2016/11/16(水) 22:03:14.25 ID:2YSLzcML0.net

負け犬のオーボエか

7.名前: 急所攻撃(愛知県)@\(^o^)/ [CA]
投稿日:2016/11/16(水) 22:03:34.69 ID:rQ/YYn/s0.net

前から言われていたことだし、昔の大統領選でも敗者のほうが得票が多かったことあるんじゃないのか?

8.名前: アトミックドロップ(福岡県)@\(^o^)/ [US]
投稿日:2016/11/16(水) 22:03:56.44 ID:Uc8Q/AHZ0.net

なんかジャップみたいに情けない事やってんのなw

9.名前: フェイスロック(ロシア連邦)@\(^o^)/ [US]sage
投稿日:2016/11/16(水) 22:04:05.61 ID:1zfQaCpb0.net

往生際悪いなw

10.名前: フロントネックロック(西日本)@\(^o^)/ [CR]
投稿日:2016/11/16(水) 22:04:05.76 ID:09k5yeiB0.net

そらまぁ言いますよね

11.名前: バーニングハンマー(徳島県)@\(^o^)/ [ニダ]
投稿日:2016/11/16(水) 22:04:16.84 ID:ea+JwboB0.net

史上5例目で民意どうのこうの騒ぐのは怠慢だわ

スポンサーリンク

12.名前: ジャーマンスープレックス(福岡県)@\(^o^)/ [IT]sage
投稿日:2016/11/16(水) 22:04:25.06 ID:m44yPNYb0.net

終わった後でシステムに文句つけるのやめようやアホらしい

13.名前: エメラルドフロウジョン(埼玉県)@\(^o^)/ [US]sage
投稿日:2016/11/16(水) 22:04:52.29 ID:amo9cnfr0.net

>>7
でも実際民意を反映してないでしょそういう逆転現象は
それなら日本も一票の格差是正なんて不要ってことになるし

14.名前: フランケンシュタイナー(家)@\(^o^)/ [ニダ]
投稿日:2016/11/16(水) 22:05:02.05 ID:4HxuVDbU0.net

システムに文句言うのは常時問題ない
勝敗は覆らないだけ

15.名前: フライングニールキック(秋田県)@\(^o^)/ [US]
投稿日:2016/11/16(水) 22:05:07.36 ID:K/5wDNND0.net

嫌なら独立しろ

16.名前: ムーンサルトプレス(茸)@\(^o^)/ [US]
投稿日:2016/11/16(水) 22:05:28.74 ID:KwiHYIiO0.net

選挙制度がおかしすぎる

17.名前: パイルドライバー(庭)@\(^o^)/ [JP]sage
投稿日:2016/11/16(水) 22:05:32.10 ID:dyuCqE+00.net

制度が悪いとか負けてから言うなカス

18.名前: アトミックドロップ(庭)@\(^o^)/ [US]sage
投稿日:2016/11/16(水) 22:05:55.82 ID:KgPfcsmn0.net

だったら選挙前に制度を変えとけよ

19.名前: 男色ドライバー(チベット自治区)@\(^o^)/ [ニダ]
投稿日:2016/11/16(水) 22:06:13.30 ID:2u1ffKiN0.net

日本も比例とか民意反映しない糞制度何とかしろ

20.名前: ムーンサルトプレス(禿)@\(^o^)/ [US]sage
投稿日:2016/11/16(水) 22:06:15.20 ID:0wwU7JvY0.net

選挙人ゲームずっとやってろw

21.名前: ジャンピングエルボーアタック(神奈川県)@\(^o^)/ [CN]sage
投稿日:2016/11/16(水) 22:06:22.83 ID:2vmWdfVP0.net

ブッシュのときは騒がなかったのになw

22.名前: マスク剥ぎ(catv?)@\(^o^)/ [CA]
投稿日:2016/11/16(水) 22:06:49.81 ID:6bQ0RuEO0.net

そんなの最初からわかってるから、どこそこの州で勝てるかどうかって考えて選挙運動してんだろ?

23.名前: フェイスロック(庭)@\(^o^)/ [GB]
投稿日:2016/11/16(水) 22:06:51.70 ID:AwlFbaz00.net

ゴア

24.名前: マシンガンチョップ(やわらか銀行)@\(^o^)/ [ニダ]sage
投稿日:2016/11/16(水) 22:07:04.45 ID:B84oGOhP0.net

負けた方の遠吠え

25.名前: フランケンシュタイナー(家)@\(^o^)/ [ニダ]
投稿日:2016/11/16(水) 22:07:08.06 ID:4HxuVDbU0.net

ブッシュのときはフロリダでめちゃくちゃ揉めた

26.名前: ヒップアタック(中部地方)@\(^o^)/ [NL]
投稿日:2016/11/16(水) 22:07:11.71 ID:VINx3PSC0.net

知らんがな
死票はどっちにしたって出るだろ

27.名前: 不知火(東京都)@\(^o^)/ [DE]sage
投稿日:2016/11/16(水) 22:07:11.82 ID:oCCB9F9s0.net

得票数では次点ながら最多の選挙人を獲得し当選したのは、いずれも共和党の大統領候補。
勝者総取り制は、共和党に有利な選挙制度といえるだろうな。

28.名前: フォーク攻撃(dion軍)@\(^o^)/ [PT]
投稿日:2016/11/16(水) 22:07:46.48 ID:hos69Kdx0.net

連邦国家だからだろ

29.名前: 垂直落下式DDT(アメリカ合衆国)@\(^o^)/ [CN]
投稿日:2016/11/16(水) 22:07:47.41 ID:nTl20clS0.net

カリフォルニアの総取りがなくなったら次から苦戦が続くぞ^^

30.名前: パイルドライバー(catv?)@\(^o^)/ [DE]sage
投稿日:2016/11/16(水) 22:07:59.39 ID:P2Ksj+nV0.net

後出しジャンケンかよ

31.名前: リバースパワースラム(茸)@\(^o^)/ [DK]sage
投稿日:2016/11/16(水) 22:08:02.55 ID:JmEaTsai0.net

これマジで戦争になるんじゃないの?

32.名前: ジャンピングエルボーアタック(庭)@\(^o^)/ [HK]sage
投稿日:2016/11/16(水) 22:08:09.71 ID:g6z12uAu0.net

そうだ!日本も比例で復活とか禁止にしちまえ!

33.名前: ジャンピングDDT(愛知県)@\(^o^)/ [CN]
投稿日:2016/11/16(水) 22:08:18.56 ID:hWnI9Qm60.net

なんでシステム変えなかったのか

34.名前: ミッドナイトエクスプレス(愛知県)@\(^o^)/ [FR]
投稿日:2016/11/16(水) 22:08:18.96 ID:PoGJTTx50.net

試合に負けても勝負に勝った! みたいな?

35.名前: ニールキック(庭)@\(^o^)/ [US]sage
投稿日:2016/11/16(水) 22:08:38.01 ID:fSuLod/r0.net

>>21
裁判まで行ったよ。

36.名前: フルネルソンスープレックス(大阪府)@\(^o^)/ [BH]
投稿日:2016/11/16(水) 22:08:49.30 ID:ICCIYFyq0.net

あそー
そらおめ

37.名前: ウエスタンラリアット(神奈川県)@\(^o^)/ [CN]sage
投稿日:2016/11/16(水) 22:08:57.95 ID:3Tr8jt5d0.net

この選挙制度を何で現代まで続けてるの?

38.名前: 頭突き(内モンゴル自治区)@\(^o^)/ [US]
投稿日:2016/11/16(水) 22:09:12.25 ID:+5ORs3rKO.net

合衆国崩壊するだろ

39.名前: スリーパーホールド(関東・甲信越)@\(^o^)/ [BR]
投稿日:2016/11/16(水) 22:09:20.03 ID:mKSlDYBXO.net

そういう仕組みであることは十分わかった上で
戦略的に選挙活動を進めて負けたんでしょ?

40.名前: 膝十字固め(鹿児島県)@\(^o^)/ [US]
投稿日:2016/11/16(水) 22:09:20.90 ID:v0BAdD5/0.net

ファミコンの大統領選のやつからおかしな制度だと思ってたよ

41.名前: エメラルドフロウジョン(家)@\(^o^)/ [TH]
投稿日:2016/11/16(水) 22:09:40.12 ID:GlZKsJhy0.net

見直すのはいいとは思うが普通に考えて次の大統領選からだろ
今回の無効なとか言い出したらキリないぞw

42.名前: 垂直落下式DDT(アメリカ合衆国)@\(^o^)/ [CN]
投稿日:2016/11/16(水) 22:09:40.21 ID:nTl20clS0.net

>>27
「今回は」という但し書きがつく。

43.名前: ニーリフト(庭)@\(^o^)/ [US]sage
投稿日:2016/11/16(水) 22:09:52.42 ID:vWvy46Gy0.net

決まったもんは仕方ないとしても100万も多いのに負けってさすがに制度に対して疑問が残るわな

44.名前: バックドロップ(大阪府)@\(^o^)/ [KZ]sage
投稿日:2016/11/16(水) 22:09:58.81 ID:6EDblhwm0.net

制度がわかった上で選挙戦戦ったわけだろ
ただの戦略ミスだろ

45.名前: マシンガンチョップ(禿)@\(^o^)/ [JP]
投稿日:2016/11/16(水) 22:10:16.24 ID:sIW5Yydb0.net

負けたら土台から否定ってwww
最初から言えよ
日本の左翼まんまでワロタw

あとそれやると都会が強くなって田舎が虐げられる
南北戦争みたいになるぞ

46.名前: アンクルホールド(家)@\(^o^)/ [US]sage
投稿日:2016/11/16(水) 22:10:20.24 ID:oDcSTl0l0.net

でもそうなると都知事選みたいに有名人ばかりになるぞ

47.名前: ファルコンアロー(SB-iPhone)@\(^o^)/ [US]
投稿日:2016/11/16(水) 22:10:24.34 ID:PIpH7TZp0.net

敗北宣言したらもうダメやろ

48.名前: フライングニールキック(秋田県)@\(^o^)/ [US]
投稿日:2016/11/16(水) 22:10:50.54 ID:K/5wDNND0.net

州人口で民主党の勝ち
投票率で共和党の勝ち

49.名前: 栓抜き攻撃(青森県)@\(^o^)/ [US]sage
投稿日:2016/11/16(水) 22:11:15.78 ID:LhU2DP/l0.net

こういう事言え言うほど世界から冷笑される

50.名前: ダイビングヘッドバット(鳥取県)@\(^o^)/ [CA]
投稿日:2016/11/16(水) 22:11:15.89 ID:5HAVWfbB0.net

シールズかよw

51.名前: フェイスクラッシャー(岐阜県)@\(^o^)/ [BR]
投稿日:2016/11/16(水) 22:11:17.91 ID:Me/7wnC70.net

選挙人資格の問題はないのかねぇ
移民ぽい人間の価値観の数が既存をひっくり返し対応を迫るとか
実験としては興味深いけどうまくいくのかねぇ

52.名前: ファイナルカット(茸)@\(^o^)/ [TH]sage
投稿日:2016/11/16(水) 22:11:20.86 ID:SK3hTyBu0.net

まあ別に今後選挙制度を変える議論をするのはかまわんが

す で に 負 け て る だ ろ

53.名前: ショルダーアームブリーカー(SB-iPhone)@\(^o^)/ [GB]
投稿日:2016/11/16(水) 22:11:21.98 ID:pIdV28PA0.net

ヒラリーほど日本嫌いの政治家はいないからな
大統領にならなくてよかったよ

54.名前: かかと落とし(青森県)@\(^o^)/ [US]
投稿日:2016/11/16(水) 22:11:24.47 ID:GGKJOvXq0.net

たかだか200万票なんて誤差の範囲だろ。
アメリカじゃどんな選挙でも一票の格差ないのか?

てか気に入らないなら最初から選挙法変えておけよ。

55.名前: ボマイェ(catv?)@\(^o^)/ [ヌコ]sage
投稿日:2016/11/16(水) 22:11:33.18 ID:kydoaRdT0.net

選挙人だと買収できちゃう?

56.名前: ストマッククロー(千葉県)@\(^o^)/ [CN]
投稿日:2016/11/16(水) 22:11:45.37 ID:vgG2suRx0.net

>>22
そうだよね
ヒラリーも現行制度で勝つように選挙戦術組んでいたわけだから

総得票数勝負になると小さい州は無視されるから
まあこの案が成立する可能性は今のところは無いな

57.名前: トラースキック(東京都)@\(^o^)/ [ZA]
投稿日:2016/11/16(水) 22:11:56.69 ID:xwnCdTNT0.net

>>22
ババアは余裕かまして行ってない州とか結構あるからな
マスゴミがおだてすぎた

58.名前: 張り手(東京都)@\(^o^)/ [FR]
投稿日:2016/11/16(水) 22:11:58.34 ID:x1Ryduys0.net

>>13
そもそも州ごとの民意を重んじてる選挙人制度においては
全国の合計得票数は民意ではないから
裁判所に訴えても選挙のやり直しはあり得ないよ

59.名前: キングコングラリアット(庭)@\(^o^)/ [US]
投稿日:2016/11/16(水) 22:12:14.15 ID:Es1Mpsr10.net

遡及が許されるのは、韓国ぐらい

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