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  • 【画像】黙れドン太郎さんが1日に女の子とヤる回数wwwww
  • 熊本県民「ダムなんて要らねぇ!」国・県「おう、わかったわ」
  • 『鬼滅の刃』読んだけどこいつ何だったの? イノスケより意味不明な存在なんだけどwwww
  • 画像あり タイのロリ巨●がAVデビューwwwww
  • 【画像】このレイヤーさんのくびれ、美しすぎるwwwww
  • 【速報】欅坂46に緊急事態宣言が発令される
  • 麦わらの一味にカイドウの娘が入りそうやけどさ
  • 【悲報】女子アナさん、目を疑うレベルの透けブラをするww 他
  • ソニー「PSPlus10周年記念なので豪華なフリープレイタイトルを用意しました」 他
  • とあるレストランに予約を入れ、予約した日時に店に行って「今日の6時半に予約を入れてある○○ですが…
  • 【画像】九州豪雨、やっぱり出てきた「こういう奴」 他
  • 【朗報】モンハン受付嬢さん、ポリコレに屈せずエッチな衣装になる 他
  • カラオケでもう二度と誘わない奴の特徴wwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww 他
  • 最近の軽自動車がマジで良くなってる 他
  • 走行中の車が突然白い霧に包まれ吹き飛ばされる動画が怖すぎる!一体何が起こったんだ!?
  • 【嫉妬画像】お寺さん、とんでもない格言を残してしまうwwwwwww
  • 【速報】ワイ、Amazonでとんでもない賭けに出る
  • 【悲報】中国人さん、日本の国語教科書を割ってしまう
  • ドイツに続いてイギリスも消費税減税へ「消費税を20%から5%に引き下げます!」海外出羽守「・・…
  • 【絶望】やっと出来た初めての彼女、店長の元セ○レだったことが判明…
  • 彼女「クリスマスは家族とご飯行く!」←悲しい現実wwwwwww

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  • 【これマジ?】木下優樹菜、最後にヤバすぎる発言・・・
  • 【画像】ソフマップ、ガチでシコらせにくるwww
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  • ペイペイ等のキャッシュレス決済各社の決算www
  • 口座残り138円のクレカ止まってしまったニキの末路www

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資本主義って限界はあるの? いつまで通用するの? ポスト資本主義とは?

   

1.名前: パイルドライバー(東京都)@\(^o^)/ [US]
投稿日:2016/11/30(水) 00:04:52.73 ID:PPLeK/pv0.net

ベネズエラのマドゥロ大統領は28日、同国の資本主義の終焉の始まりを発表した。
マドゥロ大統領は、政府の経済ブロックの会合で、「2016年は資本主義的、レント的(不労所得的)、石油依存的モデルが終焉する最初の年となり、2017年はベネズエラ人の幸福と
生活の発展に不可欠な部分である効率的な社会主義の新経済ポストレント的モデルの「エンジン」がスタートする最初の年となる」と述べた。
ポータル「Noticias24」が伝えた。
マドゥロ大統領は、今年様々な分野で15件の新プロジェクトが準備され、これらは来年フル稼働すると説明した。現在ベネズエラ経済の90%以上が石油に依存している。
マドゥロ大統領はこの日、ツアーオペレーターがそのサービスに対する支払いを米ドルで受け取ることができる、いわゆる交換条約36号に署名した。
これまでベネズエラでは、外貨での決済が禁止されていた。
今後は観光サービスを提供する企業の外貨収入の40%を事業開発への投資のために自社に残すことができるようになり、60%はいわゆる限界通貨システム「SIMADI」のレートで国に
売らなければならない。

そー
https://jp.sputniknews.com/politics/201611293062459/

2.名前: ドラゴンスープレックス(香川県)@\(^o^)/ [KR]
投稿日:2016/11/30(水) 00:05:27.84 ID:+DXYEHT80.net

合本主義

に代わると言って10年経過した

3.名前: バーニングハンマー(庭)@\(^o^)/ [CN]
投稿日:2016/11/30(水) 00:07:33.07 ID:Siaad1ts0.net

まず中韓と縁を切って賄賂文化無くせ

4.名前: 中年’sリフト(関東・甲信越)@\(^o^)/ [US]
投稿日:2016/11/30(水) 00:10:26.91 ID:KCy14XoVO.net

(アメリカ式)資本主義は頭打ちね

5.名前: チェーン攻撃(東京都)@\(^o^)/ [ニダ]sage
投稿日:2016/11/30(水) 00:11:53.86 ID:8by681iI0.net

物作っても売れないし、十分な性能だしな。共産主義になるんちゃうん(てきとう

6.名前: ネックハンギングツリー(catv?)@\(^o^)/ [KW]sage
投稿日:2016/11/30(水) 00:13:32.35 ID:aubgOYMh0.net

ポスト資本主義は修正資本主義
共産主義に移行する日はこない

7.名前: ボマイェ(埼玉県)@\(^o^)/ [ニダ]
投稿日:2016/11/30(水) 00:19:17.09 ID:JtJk767d0.net

資本主義に限界があるのなんて大昔から言われてたことだよ
行き着く先は戦争か革命しかない資本家が勝つか労働者が勝つか

8.名前: セントーン(東京都)@\(^o^)/ [ニダ]
投稿日:2016/11/30(水) 00:20:07.64 ID:2HZkqhOx0.net

金利0にしようぜ

9.名前: ドラゴンスープレックス(香川県)@\(^o^)/ [KR]
投稿日:2016/11/30(水) 00:20:45.61 ID:+DXYEHT80.net

>>6
大学院修士が正義の資本主義?

おまえ矛盾を感じないのか

10.名前: スリーパーホールド(静岡県)@\(^o^)/ [DE]
投稿日:2016/11/30(水) 00:21:04.95 ID:gK9uBjrH0.net

限界も何も共産主義が大失敗したんだからこれしかないだろw

11.名前: ドラゴンスープレックス(香川県)@\(^o^)/ [KR]
投稿日:2016/11/30(水) 00:23:58.99 ID:+DXYEHT80.net

>>10
リーガルのクツだけで決まるのか

スポンサーリンク

12.名前: チェーン攻撃(東京都)@\(^o^)/ [AU]sage
投稿日:2016/11/30(水) 00:24:17.70 ID:rQPhgT5U0.net

あれ、ベネズエラの経済を変えるって話かこれ
騙された

13.名前: ツームストンパイルドライバー(長野県)@\(^o^)/ [KR]sage
投稿日:2016/11/30(水) 00:24:59.74 ID:Hz710rvm0.net

カネって価値からの脱却なんだろうけど思い付かない

14.名前: エクスプロイダー(WiMAX)@\(^o^)/ [US]
投稿日:2016/11/30(水) 00:28:52.20 ID:Ypwmi2ht0.net

あらゆる類の契約不履行が不信を招き限界説を後押ししてしまうんだよ
借金をもっと効率よく取り立てるシステムを研究しろ
人身売買もありだ

15.名前: ネックハンギングツリー(catv?)@\(^o^)/ [KW]
投稿日:2016/11/30(水) 00:30:19.32 ID:aubgOYMh0.net

>>13
通貨って価値の抽象化てあって
抽象化の放棄は文明の放棄だよ

16.名前: 急所攻撃(新疆ウイグル自治区)@\(^o^)/ [US]
投稿日:2016/11/30(水) 00:30:52.65 ID:KvtfqikJ0.net

ずばり、AIを導入した共産主義だと思うよ

17.名前: カーフブランディング(新疆ウイグル自治区)@\(^o^)/ [US]sage
投稿日:2016/11/30(水) 00:31:08.15 ID:20sf3rjI0.net

>>1
資本主義の中で細分化されていくんじゃないかな
成熟したコミュニティがジャンルが細分化されていくのはよくある

お前らみたいにマッタリ生活を良しとする経済圏もあれば、
意識高い社畜経済圏もあるだろうな
その国の個々の経済コミュニティが、グローバルに繋がりを持って成長していくだろう

コミュニティの細分化&ボーダーレス化
これだと思うね

18.名前: ランサルセ(和歌山県)@\(^o^)/ [US]
投稿日:2016/11/30(水) 00:32:40.61 ID:dfBu1BWu0.net

生産力過剰な世の中は消費効率の良い社会が強くなる

19.名前: ジャーマンスープレックス(東京都)@\(^o^)/ [US]
投稿日:2016/11/30(水) 00:34:14.61 ID:io6lKaeF0.net

人の欲望があるかぎり永遠に続く

20.名前: 急所攻撃(新疆ウイグル自治区)@\(^o^)/ [US]sage
投稿日:2016/11/30(水) 00:36:18.24 ID:KvtfqikJ0.net

今、証券取引もAIがやってる
経済政策も官僚や日銀が決めるのではな、AIが決めるようになる

21.名前: アイアンフィンガーフロムヘル(dion軍)@\(^o^)/ [ニダ]sage
投稿日:2016/11/30(水) 00:37:11.40 ID:Y0ZRw2GC0.net

>>1
ほんの一握りの者が富を独占し、大多数はただただ搾取されるシステム。
大多数がそれに我慢できなくなった時、このシステムは崩壊する。
それはもう始まっている。
アメリカにおけるトランプの当選は、まさにその始まりだ。

22.名前: シューティングスタープレス(香港)@\(^o^)/ [US]sage
投稿日:2016/11/30(水) 00:37:15.33 ID:TTWGNbv30.net

小さいときから勉強をずっとしてきて、更に大人になって仕事詰めでも
平気な人もいるからね。ぐうたら人間を基準にして世の中を考えても無駄。

23.名前: ジャーマンスープレックス(東京都)@\(^o^)/ [US]
投稿日:2016/11/30(水) 00:38:34.78 ID:io6lKaeF0.net

>>21
トランプって、一握りのほうやけど???

24.名前: エメラルドフロウジョン(滋賀県)@\(^o^)/ [CA]sage
投稿日:2016/11/30(水) 00:39:13.50 ID:eXPo7uk80.net

アメリカが内需化しEUも不安定な中
中国がAIIBでグローバル化しだしたからパワーバランスが崩れる

25.名前: 急所攻撃(新疆ウイグル自治区)@\(^o^)/ [US]
投稿日:2016/11/30(水) 00:40:32.91 ID:KvtfqikJ0.net

限界効用じゃないんだけどさ、
貨幣の価値だって20歳の時の100万円と50歳の時の100万円じゃ違うわけじゃん?

26.名前: エクスプロイダー(大阪府)@\(^o^)/ [ニダ]
投稿日:2016/11/30(水) 00:40:52.53 ID:/2mprK1P0.net

共産主義は産業社会に特化し過ぎて
情報社会に馴染まないだろう

27.名前: キドクラッチ(千葉県)@\(^o^)/ [CN]sage
投稿日:2016/11/30(水) 00:41:29.74 ID:YWvuYdlV0.net

AIにすべて任せるというAI原理主義と資本主義との戦いになる

28.名前: ローリングソバット(茸)@\(^o^)/ [JP]
投稿日:2016/11/30(水) 00:43:26.38 ID:tQgClulz0.net

限界というか、国の借金がどこで破綻するかで決まるだろうな。
そのときにガラガラポンをやる事になるが、それが資本主義の終わりの合図です。
それから間もなく終わりが来ます。

29.名前: 膝靭帯固め(大阪府)@\(^o^)/ [ニダ]
投稿日:2016/11/30(水) 00:43:26.43 ID:OvxurMWi0.net

この間の天理市の談合市議、創価学会員だったそうな。

天理市で創価学会。そうかそうかで談合ネットワーク。資本

30.名前: エクスプロイダー(大阪府)@\(^o^)/ [ニダ]
投稿日:2016/11/30(水) 00:44:05.21 ID:/2mprK1P0.net

あらゆるものが売り尽くされて
便利になったが仕事が無い
仕事が無ければ豊かになれない
器用貧乏社会

31.名前: 毒霧(やわらか銀行)@\(^o^)/ [US]
投稿日:2016/11/30(水) 00:45:11.59 ID:PRFUNKXq0.net

共産主義はAIなら可能だろう

32.名前: ローリングソバット(茸)@\(^o^)/ [JP]
投稿日:2016/11/30(水) 00:45:43.27 ID:tQgClulz0.net

>>15
信用創造とか言うインチキはやっぱり駄目だろう。

33.名前: フロントネックロック(WiMAX)@\(^o^)/ [US]
投稿日:2016/11/30(水) 00:47:27.80 ID:eqAWCLuW0.net

大臣「資本主義は崩壊寸前でございます」
書記長「うむ、ではわが共産主義はどうかな?」
大臣「資本主義よりも一歩進んでおります!」

34.名前: 逆落とし(チベット自治区)@\(^o^)/ [KR]sage
投稿日:2016/11/30(水) 00:50:20.44 ID:DmAvezUZ0.net

>>14
そもそも信用をおかしくしたのが金貸しじゃねーか
自業自得以外のなにものでもねえ

35.名前: ドラゴンスープレックス(香川県)@\(^o^)/ [KR]
投稿日:2016/11/30(水) 00:52:41.52 ID:+DXYEHT80.net

>>17
アメリカの年金制度は、民間保険の真似で、10と1

1は公務員のだ、確か
それで全部で11ある

これは俺の家の電話番号に由来する

36.名前: アイアンフィンガーフロムヘル(dion軍)@\(^o^)/ [ニダ]sage
投稿日:2016/11/30(水) 00:53:04.02 ID:Y0ZRw2GC0.net

>>23
トランプに投票したのは、ヒラリーのバックにいるユダヤの巨大財閥が支配する社会を変えようとした人達。
トランプ自身は金持ちではあるが、社会を支配する巨大資本家ではなく、その手先でもない。
ヒラリーでは何も変わらない。
トランプなら何かが変わるかもしれない。
そんな期待があったからトランプは当選できた。
大統領になったトランプが暗殺の危険を冒してまで巨大なユダヤ勢力と戦うとは思えないが、トランプの当選は
アメリカ人のユダヤ支配に対する明確な反抗だった。
この動きは一時のものではなく、今後大きな運動となって世界中に広まる可能性がある。
その時、人々ははっきりと「ユダヤを倒せ」と言うだろう。

37.名前: ローリングソバット(禿)@\(^o^)/ [SE]
投稿日:2016/11/30(水) 00:55:19.68 ID:bZLV2W4a0.net

>>1
無い
今の世界は社会主義の限界

38.名前: ドラゴンスープレックス(香川県)@\(^o^)/ [KR]
投稿日:2016/11/30(水) 00:55:33.51 ID:+DXYEHT80.net

>>36
ユダヤ人山口組ってだけだぜ

俺は警官にはなれそうには無い

39.名前: ストレッチプラム(大阪府)@\(^o^)/ [US]
投稿日:2016/11/30(水) 00:56:27.82 ID:nIsSeLpK0.net

>>36
残念、トランプもユダ公の犬。
ティーパーティー派のユダ公が戦争屋のユダ公と対立してるだけ…と見せかけて金持ち喧嘩せずで落とし所みつけるよ。

40.名前: パロスペシャル(茸)@\(^o^)/ [ニダ]
投稿日:2016/11/30(水) 00:56:37.57 ID:OnyumKHZ0.net

資本主義しんどい
もっとのんびり過ごそうぜ

41.名前: ハーフネルソンスープレックス(庭)@\(^o^)/ [CN]sage
投稿日:2016/11/30(水) 00:56:54.57 ID:gbkkAoEG0.net

社会主義の国でまともなとこできてから言えよ

42.名前: エクスプロイダー(大阪府)@\(^o^)/ [ニダ]
投稿日:2016/11/30(水) 01:00:49.84 ID:/2mprK1P0.net

情報社会を支えるイデオロギーが分からない
情報は便利だが金にならない
節約すると物が売れない

43.名前: ストレッチプラム(青森県)@\(^o^)/ [US]
投稿日:2016/11/30(水) 01:01:04.57 ID:82I7jo5p0.net

モノの価値が無くなる社会だろ

44.名前: スパイダージャーマン(WiMAX)@\(^o^)/ [CN]
投稿日:2016/11/30(水) 01:01:45.05 ID:tvA3WaH10.net

資本主義は金を回してなんぼなのに脱税やエコとかリサイクルとか人件費削減とか金回り悪くするほうにしか
世の中が回らないから企業だけが儲かって国や労働者が疲弊する
それで低金利と低消費でデフレが起きて、企業が利益追求をやめて環境保全や名誉追求型になる
ことはないので最後は戦争になる
次とかはないよ

45.名前: シューティングスタープレス(大阪府)@\(^o^)/ [CN]
投稿日:2016/11/30(水) 01:02:11.81 ID:aoOAPnUP0.net

ピケティとか絵に描いた餅だし

46.名前: 逆落とし(チベット自治区)@\(^o^)/ [KR]sage
投稿日:2016/11/30(水) 01:02:32.34 ID:DmAvezUZ0.net

>>41
日本w

47.名前: タイガースープレックス(愛知県)@\(^o^)/ [CN]
投稿日:2016/11/30(水) 01:03:25.31 ID:OzR9POXr0.net

オカルト予言なんかだと終わる終わるって言ってるからいつか終わる気がする
極度に上位の一部の人達以外をみな平らにしていくような気がする

48.名前: ローリングソバット(禿)@\(^o^)/ [SE]
投稿日:2016/11/30(水) 01:06:18.43 ID:bZLV2W4a0.net

>>44
国家が搾取をやり過ぎているのが原因だよ
1970年代の日本は公的国民負担率25%の理想的な資本主義で自由主義の国だったが
今は政府に搾取されて公的国民負担率50%の高負担国家になったのが日本の敗因

49.名前: エクスプロイダー(大阪府)@\(^o^)/ [ニダ]
投稿日:2016/11/30(水) 01:08:03.11 ID:/2mprK1P0.net

物を買えと言われても、不便な物を買ってもしょうがないしなあ

50.名前: スパイダージャーマン(WiMAX)@\(^o^)/ [CN]sage
投稿日:2016/11/30(水) 01:10:04.45 ID:tvA3WaH10.net

>>48
それって社会福祉がどうしようもなく増えてるんだからしょうがないんじゃないの?
企業が労働者を拘束して教育や子供を増やすのを抑制させた責任のほうがでかいと思う
あと、払うべき企業がちゃんと税を払ってないのも問題

51.名前: ローリングソバット(禿)@\(^o^)/ [SE]
投稿日:2016/11/30(水) 01:10:07.67 ID:bZLV2W4a0.net

>>49
いやいや公的政府サービスを年収の半分で買っているお金持ちが日本人やん

52.名前: ローリングソバット(禿)@\(^o^)/ [SE]
投稿日:2016/11/30(水) 01:14:46.61 ID:bZLV2W4a0.net

>>50
元々は25%負担だった物が2倍の50%になっても文句を言わないなんて頭がおかしい
1970年代の公的国民負担比率と現代を比べて見たら日本人が日本政府に搾取されている社会主義構造が日本人の敗因だと解るよ

53.名前: ミッドナイトエクスプレス(静岡県)@\(^o^)/ [US]
投稿日:2016/11/30(水) 01:18:44.35 ID:D2OYEFlO0.net

これだけネットが発達したんだから物々交換がもっと活発になってもいい気がする

54.名前: ハーフネルソンスープレックス(東京都)@\(^o^)/ [ニダ]
投稿日:2016/11/30(水) 01:18:50.54 ID:tD/Jdasr0.net

人工知能の性能が指数関数的に上昇して
シンギュラリティを突破したら
社会主義もありだな
共産主義はありえないけど

55.名前: ナガタロックII(庭)@\(^o^)/ [US]sage
投稿日:2016/11/30(水) 01:19:19.59 ID:d1VEIxbs0.net

資本主義と言っても幅が広いし人によって判断が異なる

56.名前: スパイダージャーマン(WiMAX)@\(^o^)/ [CN]sage
投稿日:2016/11/30(水) 01:20:54.66 ID:tvA3WaH10.net

>>52
年齢別の人口比率を考えたらしょうがないんじゃないの?
社会主義構造自体は別に悪くないでしょ

57.名前: レッドインク(香川県)@\(^o^)/ [US]
投稿日:2016/11/30(水) 01:21:43.01 ID:ZMqHn9vl0.net

公安の精鋭が、香川の三豊市高瀬町に集結してるのか

58.名前: ローリングソバット(禿)@\(^o^)/ [SE]
投稿日:2016/11/30(水) 01:23:12.30 ID:bZLV2W4a0.net

>>54
社会主義には競争が働かないから腐敗するだけだよ

59.名前: スパイダージャーマン(WiMAX)@\(^o^)/ [CN]sage
投稿日:2016/11/30(水) 01:24:03.07 ID:tvA3WaH10.net

>>53
物々交換は個人の価値観が合いにくいから難しいと思うが、、、
モノの流れ自体はアマゾンとかのおかげて活発じゃないか?

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