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財務省「医者よ、給料高すぎじゃないかい?」医師会「テメーが言うな」

   

1.名前:名無しさん@涙目です。(埼玉県)@\(^o^)/ [ニダ]
投稿日:2017/06/29(木) 20:11:52.46 ID:glfsLWrJ0.net BE:971283288-PLT(13000) BE:971283288-PLT(13000)


財務省資料に医師会反発 診療報酬下げ巡り攻防
http://www.nikkei.com/article/DGKKZO1824427029062017PP8000/

 2018年度予算編成の焦点となる診療報酬改定を巡る前哨戦が始まった。
引き下げをめざす財務省が医師の診療報酬価格と賃金・物価の動向を比較し、医師の報酬が高水準と指摘する資料を作成。
引き下げを避けたい日本医師会は「恣意的だ」と反発している。
改定作業の基礎データになる可能性があるだけに、激しいさや当てを続けている。

 今年春になって財務省は18年度予算編成の論点を提起する財政制度等審議会に1枚の資料を提出した。
本体部分の診療報酬価格の推移を示したものだ。

 1995年度を起点にすると、15年度は指数で10ポイント上昇している。
全体の賃金はわずか1ポイント、消費者物価も3ポイントしか上がっていない。
財務省は「人為的な価格増により上昇を続けた結果、賃金や物価に比べて高い水準」と断じた。

 資料の公表後、日本医師会の横倉義武会長は「大変遺憾に思う」と不快感をあらわにした。
自民党の厚労族幹部も「悪知恵を働かせる財務省とは徹底的に戦う」と憤る。

2.名前:名無しさん@涙目です。(神奈川県)@\(^o^)/ [ニダ]sage
投稿日:2017/06/29(木) 20:12:36.30 ID:3/8MkTPj0.net

医者
看護師高すぎるわ

介護士を見習えよ

3.名前:名無しさん@涙目です。(島根県)@\(^o^)/ [US]sage
投稿日:2017/06/29(木) 20:12:52.60 ID:Cu0nRgrn0.net

政治家、公務員の方が貰いすぎ

4.名前:名無しさん@涙目です。(SB-iPhone)@\(^o^)/ [RU]sage
投稿日:2017/06/29(木) 20:13:02.84 ID:tAWApN540.net

高すぎるよな
俺の周りの医者は軒並み年収5000万超えてるわ
みんな問題起こして免許剥奪されればいいのに

5.名前:名無しさん@涙目です。(千葉県)@\(^o^)/ [GB]sage
投稿日:2017/06/29(木) 20:14:03.36 ID:Ct1FCZXS0.net

このご時勢
議員や公務員の給料アップの財源って何処にあるのさ?
財源不足だー税金足りないーとかいっつもいってるのにな

6.名前:名無しさん@涙目です。(SB-iPhone)@\(^o^)/ [RU]sage
投稿日:2017/06/29(木) 20:14:08.40 ID:tAWApN540.net

>>3
公務員は貰ってないだろ

7.名前:名無しさん@涙目です。(catv?)@\(^o^)/ [US]sage
投稿日:2017/06/29(木) 20:14:20.21 ID:fff8s4q+0.net

高いのはいいけど門戸を広くしろ
バカも困るけどアホみたいに金がかかるのと
偏差値ばっかなのも困るで、それこそ専門見たいのでもええと思うわ

8.名前:名無しさん@涙目です。(大阪府)@\(^o^)/ [EU]sage
投稿日:2017/06/29(木) 20:14:29.12 ID:PGSnWzsV0.net

義務教育で簡易医学を学ばせれば良い
生きる上で1番必要な知識だろ

9.名前:名無しさん@涙目です。(岡山県)@\(^o^)/ [US]sage
投稿日:2017/06/29(木) 20:14:54.12 ID:VPu5/Mgc0.net

医療ミスしたらアウトだし高いのは仕方がないんじゃない

10.名前:名無しさん@涙目です。(庭)@\(^o^)/ [NO]
投稿日:2017/06/29(木) 20:15:11.12 ID:oHvLteUQ0.net

医師3年目のワイ、年収960万

11.名前:名無しさん@涙目です。(SB-iPhone)@\(^o^)/ [RU]sage
投稿日:2017/06/29(木) 20:15:38.75 ID:tAWApN540.net

>>10
なんでそんなに安いの?
大学病院とか?

スポンサーリンク

12.名前:名無しさん@涙目です。(dion軍)@\(^o^)/ [CA]sage
投稿日:2017/06/29(木) 20:15:46.78 ID:yhaOnAyZ0.net

いまは研修医でも40万

13.名前:名無しさん@涙目です。(神奈川県)@\(^o^)/ [TW]
投稿日:2017/06/29(木) 20:15:52.87 ID:Hh9OQeXY0.net

責任負うから高くても文句ないが AI入れろ

14.名前:名無しさん@涙目です。(神奈川県)@\(^o^)/ [ニダ]sage
投稿日:2017/06/29(木) 20:16:41.75 ID:3/8MkTPj0.net

>>13
世間にはダメダメな医者もいるのに
実績とかで差をもっとつけてほしいわ

15.名前:名無しさん@涙目です。(神奈川県)@\(^o^)/ [TW]
投稿日:2017/06/29(木) 20:17:42.69 ID:Hh9OQeXY0.net

>>14
誤診率でいいよ

16.名前:名無しさん@涙目です。(やわらか銀行)@\(^o^)/ [US]sage
投稿日:2017/06/29(木) 20:17:48.32 ID:tfr3yd/L0.net

ディスカウントの病院があっても良いと思う。入院費高い

17.名前:名無しさん@涙目です。(SB-iPhone)@\(^o^)/ [RU]sage
投稿日:2017/06/29(木) 20:17:58.93 ID:tAWApN540.net

当直バイトで日当8~10万円
月10回くらいやって年収1000万
こういうフリーター医師が結構多いらしい

18.名前:名無しさん@涙目です。(秋田県)@\(^o^)/ [GB]
投稿日:2017/06/29(木) 20:18:37.97 ID:aMxFtuBJ0.net

人の命預かってんだからええやろ

19.名前:名無しさん@涙目です。(東京都)@\(^o^)/ [US]sage
投稿日:2017/06/29(木) 20:19:10.53 ID:Zk0TARyi0.net

医師会が言うこと聞かないなら、安倍ちゃんに医学部大増設させるぞ

20.名前:名無しさん@涙目です。(茸)@\(^o^)/ [US]sage
投稿日:2017/06/29(木) 20:19:30.68 ID:r72xx3Eu0.net

まともな医師になるには、若い時から遊び我慢して必死で勉強して努力しなきゃいけないんだから金もらえてもいいんじゃね?

21.名前:名無しさん@涙目です。(SB-iPhone)@\(^o^)/ [RU]sage
投稿日:2017/06/29(木) 20:19:34.87 ID:tAWApN540.net

>>16
高額療養費もあるし、民間の医療保険も入ってるだろうから
入院費は大抵黒字になるだろ?

22.名前:名無しさん@涙目です。(東京都)@\(^o^)/ [US]sage
投稿日:2017/06/29(木) 20:20:12.86 ID:Zk0TARyi0.net

医者が足りない。もっと増やせばいいのにな。

23.名前:名無しさん@涙目です。(茸)@\(^o^)/ [ニダ]
投稿日:2017/06/29(木) 20:20:17.96 ID:VeXrT/2/0.net

高すぎるわ
とりあえず医学部もっと増やせ

24.名前:名無しさん@涙目です。(SB-iPhone)@\(^o^)/ [RU]sage
投稿日:2017/06/29(木) 20:20:33.73 ID:tAWApN540.net

>>22
ほんとこれ
3割くらい増やすべきだな

25.名前:名無しさん@涙目です。(catv?)@\(^o^)/ [US]sage
投稿日:2017/06/29(木) 20:21:03.49 ID:agr8LK5l0.net

医学部増やしまくろうぜ
今の5倍くらいんなったら俺も受験するはwwww

26.名前:名無しさん@涙目です。(山形県)@\(^o^)/ [US]sage
投稿日:2017/06/29(木) 20:21:23.80 ID:x5Yht7MG0.net

その人のためを思って寝る暇を惜しんで手術してるのに失敗したら損害賠償請求されるとか前世でどんな罪犯してんだよとは思うけど、これからのことを見据えて介護職に少し移行したほうがいいとは思う

27.名前:名無しさん@涙目です。(神奈川県)@\(^o^)/ [ニダ]sage
投稿日:2017/06/29(木) 20:21:26.37 ID:3/8MkTPj0.net

>>23
これだよな
医師や足りないとか言う割に少なすぎ
給料減らしてそのお金で医師増やせよって思う

28.名前:名無しさん@涙目です。(庭)@\(^o^)/ [US]
投稿日:2017/06/29(木) 20:21:57.59 ID:s73A+8990.net

>>11
大学やで
9時5時なのはいいがそれでも割に合わんわ

29.名前:名無しさん@涙目です。(dion軍)@\(^o^)/ [CN]sage
投稿日:2017/06/29(木) 20:22:04.83 ID:PX5hc9VV0.net

だってほとんど金の為に医者になった奴らばかりだろ

30.名前:名無しさん@涙目です。(SB-iPhone)@\(^o^)/ [RU]
投稿日:2017/06/29(木) 20:22:25.52 ID:tAWApN540.net

>>27
医師会「は?医師増やしたら収入減るだろうが!!」

31.名前:名無しさん@涙目です。(東京都)@\(^o^)/ [CA]sage
投稿日:2017/06/29(木) 20:22:26.67 ID:h8Dy3fMf0.net

週休3日で年収700万円で十分だろ。

32.名前:名無しさん@涙目です。(新疆ウイグル自治区)@\(^o^)/ [US]sage
投稿日:2017/06/29(木) 20:22:28.74 ID:td1ez8EM0.net

救急やってる医者は大変だと思うわ

33.名前:名無しさん@涙目です。(茸)@\(^o^)/ [ニダ]sage
投稿日:2017/06/29(木) 20:22:44.90 ID:OGmKZX+k0.net

>>9
全然アウトじゃない

34.名前:名無しさん@涙目です。(庭)@\(^o^)/ [ニダ]sage
投稿日:2017/06/29(木) 20:23:03.47 ID:xiyEiRpQ0.net

>>30
まんま獣医師会じゃねーか

35.名前:名無しさん@涙目です。(長野県)@\(^o^)/ [KR]sage
投稿日:2017/06/29(木) 20:23:04.15 ID:Uw1KLusc0.net

公務員の給料下げる方が効果的だと思います

36.名前:名無しさん@涙目です。(チベット自治区)@\(^o^)/ [LV]sage
投稿日:2017/06/29(木) 20:23:27.43 ID:8U2nn5Hf0.net

財務省は誰もが貧しくなる国を作りたいんだろうな

37.名前:名無しさん@涙目です。(dion軍)@\(^o^)/ [CA]sage
投稿日:2017/06/29(木) 20:23:39.23 ID:yhaOnAyZ0.net

>>23
元医者の民主党桜井充が黙ってない

38.名前:名無しさん@涙目です。(大阪府)@\(^o^)/ [DK]
投稿日:2017/06/29(木) 20:23:41.19 ID:eLNvn92n0.net

むしろ勤務医とか意外なほど給料安いって聞いたことあるけど

39.名前:名無しさん@涙目です。(SB-iPhone)@\(^o^)/ [RU]sage
投稿日:2017/06/29(木) 20:24:03.97 ID:tAWApN540.net

>>31
それはさすがに安すぎるだろ

40.名前:名無しさん@涙目です。(庭)@\(^o^)/ [CA]
投稿日:2017/06/29(木) 20:25:04.81 ID:L1PJUPIf0.net

>>4
俺はまだ研修医なんだけど、どうすりゃそんなに稼げるの?
やっぱ麻酔科でバイトしまくるのがいいかなぁ

41.名前:名無しさん@涙目です。(やわらか銀行)@\(^o^)/ [JP]
投稿日:2017/06/29(木) 20:25:05.25 ID:QxrHjdrc0.net

ってか高偏差値エリート様が競って医師になる風潮をなんとかしないと

42.名前:名無しさん@涙目です。(SB-iPhone)@\(^o^)/ [RU]sage
投稿日:2017/06/29(木) 20:25:29.93 ID:tAWApN540.net

まあまずは老人の自己負担率を2~3割にするとこからだな

43.名前:名無しさん@涙目です。(東京都)@\(^o^)/ [IN]sage
投稿日:2017/06/29(木) 20:25:31.80 ID:J4ty2/rP0.net

俺、私立トップの薬学出て
調剤薬局3つ経営してる
年収4500万

医師より勝ち組でサーセン

44.名前:名無しさん@涙目です。(catv?)@\(^o^)/ [US]sage
投稿日:2017/06/29(木) 20:25:41.06 ID:fff8s4q+0.net

医者なんざマジで専門学校で3年ぐらいでええよ
研究と臨床の選考をわけて、やればええねん

臨床なんてドカタみたいなもんやん

45.名前:名無しさん@涙目です。(東京都)@\(^o^)/ [IN]sage
投稿日:2017/06/29(木) 20:27:05.09 ID:J4ty2/rP0.net

勤務医なんて単なる奴隷だよ
あいつらは給料もたいして貰ってない
その割にブラックだからな

開業医にならないと話にならない

46.名前:名無しさん@涙目です。(dion軍)@\(^o^)/ [US]
投稿日:2017/06/29(木) 20:27:05.31 ID:A5flrJQU0.net

>>40
お前研修生の癖に麻酔科のヤバさに気づかないの?
救命も辞めとけよ

47.名前:名無しさん@涙目です。(庭)@\(^o^)/ [JP]
投稿日:2017/06/29(木) 20:27:33.61 ID:hkT6Fwsa0.net

救急病院で勤務しているような医師なら高給取りでも全然構わん
健康診断しかやらない医師は年700でも高い
どうせあいつら事前に異変を察知する能力皆無だろ

48.名前:名無しさん@涙目です。(SB-iPhone)@\(^o^)/ [RU]sage
投稿日:2017/06/29(木) 20:28:02.10 ID:tAWApN540.net

>>43
やるじゃん
お前なら違う業種でも同じように稼げただろう

49.名前:名無しさん@涙目です。(庭)@\(^o^)/ [US]
投稿日:2017/06/29(木) 20:28:09.31 ID:s73A+8990.net

>>45
ほんこれ
何も知らずに医学部入って後悔しとるわ

50.名前:名無しさん@涙目です。(東京都)@\(^o^)/ [US]sage
投稿日:2017/06/29(木) 20:28:29.53 ID:rcJ+OL8z0.net

学校内科検診とかいうJKおっパブ

51.名前:名無しさん@涙目です。(dion軍)@\(^o^)/ [CN]sage
投稿日:2017/06/29(木) 20:28:51.10 ID:PX5hc9VV0.net

人間が病気を判断するのも限界だしAIに変わると思うけどね

52.名前:名無しさん@涙目です。(catv?)@\(^o^)/ [US]sage
投稿日:2017/06/29(木) 20:29:15.48 ID:agr8LK5l0.net

>>40
オチンチンの皮を切りまくったらええのや

53.名前:名無しさん@涙目です。(やわらか銀行)@\(^o^)/ [ニダ]sage
投稿日:2017/06/29(木) 20:29:31.53 ID:68Fw8Txf0.net

高いのはいいけどな。低偏差値の医学部閉鎖していけよ!あと歯学部も!

54.名前:名無しさん@涙目です。(SB-iPhone)@\(^o^)/ [RU]sage
投稿日:2017/06/29(木) 20:29:31.76 ID:tAWApN540.net

>>40
俺の周りの奴らは美容系ばっかりだな
産科の奴も1人いるけど

55.名前:名無しさん@涙目です。(茸)@\(^o^)/ [CN]sage
投稿日:2017/06/29(木) 20:30:45.22 ID:p/sM1W0v0.net

>>22
ていうかジジババが病院集会所にしてやがるからだろ。
高齢者も金負担させて何もないのに病院に来させないようにするべき。

56.名前:名無しさん@涙目です。(空)@\(^o^)/ [US]sage
投稿日:2017/06/29(木) 20:30:47.40 ID:pmG7f+aL0.net

介護士不足だけじゃない
医者を増やせよ
AIを補助金として積極的に活用すればコストも下がるだろ

57.名前:名無しさん@涙目です。(京都府)@\(^o^)/ [JP]sage
投稿日:2017/06/29(木) 20:30:53.71 ID:4YIAjSoS0.net

40歳の俺は月給どうしても手取り20万越えないのだが

58.名前:名無しさん@涙目です。(茸)@\(^o^)/ [DE]sage
投稿日:2017/06/29(木) 20:31:33.14 ID:KFvgUMjZ0.net

医学部の数、倍にしよう

弁護士みたいにオワコンにしよう

59.名前:名無しさん@涙目です。(カナダ)@\(^o^)/ [US]
投稿日:2017/06/29(木) 20:31:44.78 ID:RH68ycxa0.net

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