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文系出身者、就活でも会社でもバカにされる 理系「計算できないのを“文系だから”と誤魔化しやがる」

   

1.名前: ミッドナイトエクスプレス(宮城県)@\(^o^)/
投稿日:2015/09/13(日) 18:44:43.53 ID:KwEC48Bc0●.net BE:601381941-PLT(13121) ポイント特典

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国立大学文系出身者 就活でも会社でもバカにされ肩身が狭い

埼玉大学は8月、2018年度までに教育学部の定員を100人減らし、大学院理工学研究科の定員を200人
増やすことを発表。弘前大学も2016年4月から、理系学部で定員を90人増やす一方、文系の人文学部と
教育学部で計150人減らすことを決めた。8月に読売新聞が行ったアンケート調査によると、全国にある
国立大学のうち、26校が2016年度以降、文系学部の改廃を計画していると答えるなど、その動きは拡大している。

コトの発端は、6月、文部科学省が全国の国立大学86校に今後6年間で人文社会系、教員養成系学部・大学院の廃止、
見直しを求める通知を出したことにある。対象となるのは文学部や教養学部、法学部や経済学部などで、
対象となる大学は、全国に86校ある国立大学のうち半数以上にのぼる。8月に文科省が発表した来年度の
国立大学の定員予定では、すでに文系学部の定員が減少するなど、改編が進んでいる。

突然進み出した“文系はいらない”ムード。文科省は通達の理由について、「社会環境の変化によって、
雇用ニーズに対応した新しい時代の産業を担う人材育成が必要となる」としている。しかしこの説明、
とらえようによっては、「企業が必要とする人材は文系では育たない」などとも受け取れる。あまりにも乱暴な
考え方とも思えるが、国立文系出身者に話を聞くと、実際のところ、社会での文系に対する風当たりは強いようだ。

入社11年目、34才の会社員A子さんが言う。

「地方の国立大学出身の私は、新入社員時代によく上司から理系出身の同期と比べられました。何かミスをすると、
『大学時代、何も勉強していないから文系は使えないんだ。その点、理系卒の○○さんは違う。仕事は速いし、
ミスがない』って言われ続けました」

少し続きますimage

2.名前: ミッドナイトエクスプレス(宮城県)@\(^o^)/
投稿日:2015/09/13(日) 18:45:05.57 ID:KwEC48Bc0.net BE:601381941-PLT(12121)

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就職活動で「文系だから」と苦戦を強いられたのは、26才のB美さんだ。

「国立大の文学部を出て就職したけれど、就職活動中は、面接を受けた会社で『文学部なんだから作家にでもなれば?』
『文学部って何を勉強してきたの?』とバカにされて悔しかった。出版社などを受けると逆に、『文学部出身なのに
全然知識がないんだね』と嫌みを言われるし…。好きなことを一生懸命勉強したかっただけなのに、私の大学生活の
すべてを否定された気がしました」

理系学部出身者からの言葉が追い打ちをかける。

「文系大出身者は受験で数学をろくに勉強していないから、会社員として最低限必要なExcelを使った資料作りや
見積書の計算など、簡単なこともできない。努力して覚えようともせず、何かにつけて“私は文系だから算数は苦手で”
とごまかそうとしている。特に女性は、数字に弱いことがかわいいとでも思っているふしさえある」(38才・会社員男性)

私立文系大学出身のある全国紙記者がこう言って肩を落とす。

「今回は税金のことがあるから“国立文系”がターゲットになりましたが、“不要”“使えない”といわれているのは
私立文系も同じ。“なんだって!”と怒りきれないのも悲しいところですが…」

※女性セブン2015年9月25日号
http://www.news-postseven.com/archives/20150911_349783.html

3.名前: 不知火(茸)@\(^o^)/sage
投稿日:2015/09/13(日) 18:46:21.48 ID:Fb1MDGfK0.net

文系もせめてFFT位解れよ

4.名前: ストレッチプラム(庭)@\(^o^)/
投稿日:2015/09/13(日) 18:47:28.54 ID:4NkPlEpQ0.net

三平方の定理や余弦定理すら忘れてて
仕事で必要だからって俺に聞いてくるのはいい加減やめて欲しいのよ
「さすが理系!」じゃねーよ。仕事で必要ならアレルギー起こしてないで覚えろや

5.名前: ボ ラギノール(dion軍)@\(^o^)/
投稿日:2015/09/13(日) 18:48:20.20 ID:ZUZ/LHb10.net

実際問題として、文系は大学でほとんど何も勉強していないから頭がバカになっているし、バカにされても仕方がない
完全に自業自得

6.名前: ムーンサルトプレス(静岡県)@\(^o^)/
投稿日:2015/09/13(日) 18:50:32.54 ID:bXKpUVuP0.net

>好きなことを一生懸命勉強したかっただけなのに

それを面接で披露しろよ

7.名前: 膝靭帯固め(SB-iPhone)@\(^o^)/sage
投稿日:2015/09/13(日) 18:51:19.09 ID:QYrzT7q10.net

コミュ力、研究職以外、仕事なんてコミュ力があれば誰でも出来るようになる。

8.名前: 断崖式ニードロップ(dion軍)@\(^o^)/
投稿日:2015/09/13(日) 18:51:30.36 ID:U1mQ1fGO0.net

文系は生涯学習レベルだからな

9.名前: ダイビングフットスタンプ(庭)@\(^o^)/
投稿日:2015/09/13(日) 18:52:39.53 ID:IKZKYNNB0.net

はてな?逆の記事もあったぞ。週刊ポストで
理系に対して「そんなに頭がいいなら、もっと人付き合いを計算して付き合え」って記事だったような

10.名前: シャイニングウィザード(庭)@\(^o^)/
投稿日:2015/09/13(日) 18:52:46.10 ID:NZjgQupX0.net

大学時代の勉強量が文系と理系で雲泥の差だからなぁ……
つーか記事にあるが文学部って実際どんなこと学んでるんだ?

11.名前: ジャンピングパワーボム(埼玉県)@\(^o^)/sage
投稿日:2015/09/13(日) 18:53:54.91 ID:pXQsQ8nm0.net

すまん、その通りだ
俺は数学ができないから文系に逃げた

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12.名前: マシンガンチョップ(茸)@\(^o^)/sage
投稿日:2015/09/13(日) 18:54:58.61 ID:Lp9xpJmN0.net

>>10
理系を酷使して利益を得る方法

13.名前: キングコングラリアット(SB-iPhone)@\(^o^)/sage
投稿日:2015/09/13(日) 18:55:39.50 ID:FLyHpdJK0.net

>好きなことを一生懸命勉強したかっただけなのに

その好きなことが仕事になる企業じゃなきゃ雇ってはくれないわな

14.名前: アトミックドロップ(茸)@\(^o^)/
投稿日:2015/09/13(日) 18:59:53.44 ID:3DWdF7H10.net

文系は力仕事だけやってればいい
理系は優秀なやつはブレーンに行き、中間以下は工場でルーチンワークさせてればいい

15.名前: 河津掛け(東京都)@\(^o^)/
投稿日:2015/09/13(日) 19:02:10.63 ID:2OqoUO5u0.net

文系で本当に大学でちゃんと勉強してる奴なんてめったにおらんだろ
単位取るだけで学問的深みが無いのが特に文系は多い

16.名前: バックドロップ(九州地方)@\(^o^)/
投稿日:2015/09/13(日) 19:05:20.96 ID:LvrJ65rxO.net

職にありつけていた頃、ゆとりが「ゆとりだから…」、って言ってたわ

17.名前: フライングニールキック(東日本)@\(^o^)/
投稿日:2015/09/13(日) 19:05:38.20 ID:Y5Sw+Tgp0.net

でも数値の単位がSI系じゃなくて¥だといきなり計算力が逆転するんでしょ?

18.名前: 河津掛け(東京都)@\(^o^)/
投稿日:2015/09/13(日) 19:07:42.73 ID:2OqoUO5u0.net

偉大な哲学者は数学や科学系でも実績残してる人が多い

哲学科にいるのに認知科学や情報工学も知らんような奴は時代が戦前で止まってるとしか思えんわ

19.名前: ジャンピングエルボーアタック(dion軍)@\(^o^)/
投稿日:2015/09/13(日) 19:09:19.23 ID:BO2/C0fA0.net

イスラム国じゃねーんだから
文系廃止とかカルトみたいなことやめろよ

20.名前: 頭突き(東京都)@\(^o^)/
投稿日:2015/09/13(日) 19:10:04.77 ID:Kdco/NdZ0.net

Excel使った資料作りや見積書の計算って、数字が苦手っていうよりもExcelが使えないっていう話じゃん
自分で計算するわけじゃあるまいし

21.名前: スパイダージャーマン(東京都)@\(^o^)/
投稿日:2015/09/13(日) 19:10:31.82 ID:UkYgdJ2V0.net

要は大学のブランドが欲しかっただけなんだよな。
早稲田大学文学部なら「出身校は早稲田」って言えるし。
文学部なら入試の競争率も法学部・経済学部より低いし。

22.名前: マシンガンチョップ(やわらか銀行)@\(^o^)/sage
投稿日:2015/09/13(日) 19:10:57.21 ID:G54Z+Cww0.net

>『大学時代、何も勉強していないから文系は使えないんだ。その点、理系卒の○○さんは違う。仕事は速いし、
ミスがない』って言われ続けました」

法律使って民事で追い込めよ だから使えねーんだよ文系は

23.名前: 不知火(北海道)@\(^o^)/sage
投稿日:2015/09/13(日) 19:11:26.02 ID:h+93pk790.net

好きなことを一生懸命勉強したかっただけだから、否定されるんだろwwwww

24.名前: リバースパワースラム(空)@\(^o^)/sage
投稿日:2015/09/13(日) 19:11:35.28 ID:Ax6/vSut0.net

文系の文学部はブラインドタッチができれば単位を貰えてた。

一方理系はプログラミングを組んでいた。必修にも関わらず3割りは単位を貰えてなかった。

一部の文系はホントにいらないと思う。

25.名前: 膝十字固め(東京都)@\(^o^)/sage
投稿日:2015/09/13(日) 19:11:45.13 ID:MnOqJWna0.net

>「企業が必要とする人材は文系では育たない」
これはそうまちがっちゃいないだろ
むしろ、これを理由に文系削るとしたら
「大学は学問を修める場ではなく、職業訓練校にする」と言ってるようなもの。
それでいいのか? とは思う。

26.名前: シューティングスタープレス(dion軍)@\(^o^)/sage
投稿日:2015/09/13(日) 19:12:25.45 ID:6M2EPT4O0.net

数学って努力なんだよな
理系が天才みたいな風潮なんだろうな
ほんといつも勉強してるよ かっこわるい的なのがあるんだろうけど
理系に努力を否定するやつは一人もいないと思う

27.名前: ダイビングフットスタンプ(庭)@\(^o^)/
投稿日:2015/09/13(日) 19:14:17.99 ID:IKZKYNNB0.net

文系には、数学的素養
理系には、国語的素養

上記が揃えていれば、もっと世の中は良くなるのにね

28.名前: スパイダージャーマン(東京都)@\(^o^)/sage
投稿日:2015/09/13(日) 19:14:50.08 ID:UkYgdJ2V0.net

>>26
英語と数学、分野によっては物理は常に勉強しといたほうがいい。
中学・高校からの流れを一度途切れさすと取り返しがつかない。

29.名前: オリンピック予選スラム(dion軍)@\(^o^)/sage
投稿日:2015/09/13(日) 19:15:17.98 ID:q7wbKo+G0.net

女性セブウウウウウウウウウウウン!!

30.名前: アトミックドロップ(庭)@\(^o^)/sage
投稿日:2015/09/13(日) 19:16:30.28 ID:A+sJtFdP0.net

他人を貶し詰り虐げることでしか自らのアイデンティティを保てない奴が屑なだけ
本当に矜持のある人ならそうはならないし、そういうことをする必要もない
想像力や感受性に乏しいから他人の気持ちを理解できず傍若無人・唯我独尊・尊大不遜な態度をとることでしか
表現できない。そのような人の言葉を真に受ける必要はない
むしろ憐れみと慈しみの眼差しで温かく見守ってあげるのが正解

31.名前: 河津掛け(東京都)@\(^o^)/
投稿日:2015/09/13(日) 19:17:21.40 ID:2OqoUO5u0.net

宮廷に入れない=数学、国語、英語のどれかあるいはその全部に欠陥のある池沼だから

32.名前: 断崖式ニードロップ(やわらか銀行)@\(^o^)/
投稿日:2015/09/13(日) 19:17:29.51 ID:LLJ1cJ8/0.net

そもそも、文系だからとか理系だからとかなんて会話聞いたことすらなないぞ。
一部上場企業だけど。
正直文系だろうが理系だろうが仕事できるやつはできるし、できないやつはできない。それだけでしかない。

33.名前: トペ コンヒーロ(茸)@\(^o^)/sage
投稿日:2015/09/13(日) 19:18:34.70 ID:quQALu1e0.net

文系理系で最近必死になってんな
内輪揉めさせたいの?

34.名前: 膝靭帯固め(庭)@\(^o^)/
投稿日:2015/09/13(日) 19:19:36.43 ID:K3jo78mq0.net

文系だからといって否定されるのはおかしいけど
社会で必要な能力を身につけずに出てきたことは否定されても仕方ない

35.名前: オリンピック予選スラム(dion軍)@\(^o^)/sage
投稿日:2015/09/13(日) 19:20:06.60 ID:q7wbKo+G0.net

理系であることがプライドの最後の砦なんだから別にいいじゃん
比較対象を文系の人に限定して優越感に浸れるじゃん
自分より優れた理系人はこの世に存在しないか
もしくは自分と同等の存在であると認定すれば幸福じゃん

36.名前: キングコングラリアット(茸)@\(^o^)/sage
投稿日:2015/09/13(日) 19:20:51.95 ID:51F4n3aC0.net

マジで文系は使えないからしゃーない

37.名前: ボ ラギノール(dion軍)@\(^o^)/
投稿日:2015/09/13(日) 19:20:56.79 ID:ZUZ/LHb10.net

>>2
好きなことを一生懸命勉強したかっただけなのに、とか大ウソ

好きなことややりたい事なんて無くて偶然その大学のその学部に受かっただけだし、一生懸命勉強したい奴なんてまずいない

目的も無いまま何となくダラダラ過ごしているだけ

38.名前: アンクルホールド(神奈川県)@\(^o^)/
投稿日:2015/09/13(日) 19:21:49.82 ID:VnPkhD3Q0.net

ないないないないw
理系一辺倒のほうがあかんわw

39.名前: フェイスロック(大阪府)@\(^o^)/
投稿日:2015/09/13(日) 19:22:18.37 ID:rynVLnHv0.net

何もかもステレオタイプに当てはめた上で考えるってのが
日本人の国民性の本質的な所にあると思う

血液型性格診断とか最たる例だよね

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