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安藤忠雄かく語りき 「ゼネコンの人たちも、儲からなくても『日本の国のために頑張る』と言ってほしい

   

1.名前: 魔神風車固め(庭)@\(^o^)/sage
投稿日:2015/07/16(木) 14:35:53.07 ID:aIngSXV20.net BE:273822876-PLT(12000) ポイント特典

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(2)「ゼネコンの人たちも、もうからなくても『日本の国のために頑張る』と言ってほしい」「徹底的なコストの議論にはなっていない」

(2/4ページ)【どうする新国立競技場】

記者会見する建築家の安藤忠雄氏=16日午前、東京都千代田区(大西正純撮影)
 「あとアーチの問題。アーチが700億円だというのは、われわれは新聞で見わたけですね。700億円じゃない、300億円だと言う人もいるし…。
だけど、1620億円の段階でも、アーチはあったんですよ。急にアーチが出てきたんかと。違いますよ、わかるでしょ。後で出てきたわけではありません。
なんで後から出てくるの。初めからあったのに、700億円は後から出てきた。そのことを考えると、やっぱり調整はいるのではないかと思います。
調整してほしいなぁという気がいたしますが」

 「日本の総力を挙げて、ゼネコンも思い切って、『日本の国のためだ』と言ってもらわないと。それが日本のゼネコンのプライドなんではないかなと思ったりするんですね。
だから、ゼネコンの人たちも、もうからなくても、『日本の国のために、日本の誇りのために頑張る』と言っていただけたら、
やっていただけたら、値段もうまくいくのではないかなと思いますが、ただ、ここ(1620億円)までは落ちてこないでしょうね」ref_l

2.名前: サッカーボールキック(秋)@\(^o^)/
投稿日:2015/07/16(木) 14:37:03.43 ID:HiXNOw910.net

クソみたいな設計で大金とってるお前が言うな

3.名前: TEKKAMAKI(埼玉県)@\(^o^)/
投稿日:2015/07/16(木) 14:37:16.91 ID:a7iOv8r20.net

何この無責任な人は(´・ω・`)

4.名前: ジャストフェイスロック(福島県)@\(^o^)/sage
投稿日:2015/07/16(木) 14:37:45.77 ID:bOYV3DvT0.net

はあ?
安藤はこれから先、どんな設計も無料でやれよ
こんなドアホだったとは
DQNかよ

5.名前: テキサスクローバーホールド(やわらか銀行)@\(^o^)/sage
投稿日:2015/07/16(木) 14:39:05.61 ID:UbzfHmGb0.net

責任逃れするな糞野郎!
 

6.名前: ファイヤーバードスプラッシュ(鳥取県)@\(^o^)/sage
投稿日:2015/07/16(木) 14:39:49.05 ID:Fzb/HziM0.net

一理ある

7.名前: 中年’sリフト(大阪府【緊急地震:宮城県沖M4.6最大震度3】)@\(^o^)/sage
投稿日:2015/07/16(木) 14:40:28.45 ID:uzBPyXvW0.net

そういう考え方だから際限なく予算が増えたんじゃないですかねえ

8.名前: デンジャラスバックドロップ(庭【緊急地震:宮城県沖M4.6最大震度3】)@\(^o^)/sage
投稿日:2015/07/16(木) 14:42:04.50 ID:3BNVAS6q0.net

Also Sprach

9.名前: 膝靭帯固め(茸【緊急地震:宮城県沖M4.6最大震度3】)@\(^o^)/sage
投稿日:2015/07/16(木) 14:43:00.85 ID:kqv/5njb0.net

頑張って建てましたはいいけど維持費どうすんだよ

10.名前: バックドロップホールド(茸【緊急地震:宮城県沖M4.6最大震度3】)@\(^o^)/sage
投稿日:2015/07/16(木) 14:43:01.76 ID:/yqtxF7G0.net

ふざけんな
労務単価どんだけ上がったと思ってんだ

11.名前: 男色ドライバー(新疆ウイグル自治区【緊急地震:宮城県沖M4.6最大震度3】)@\(^o^)/
投稿日:2015/07/16(木) 14:43:27.89 ID:B7bbTIBE0.net

これはほんとそう思う
ゼネコンも気概がないなぁ

スポンサーリンク

12.名前: 32文ロケット砲(茸)@\(^o^)/sage
投稿日:2015/07/16(木) 14:44:20.31 ID:I+xgyRAk0.net

それを強いるのはダメだろw

13.名前: テキサスクローバーホールド(茸)@\(^o^)/sage
投稿日:2015/07/16(木) 14:44:23.60 ID:3eIOj0J00.net

最近は才能が枯れたのが誰の目にもはっきりと分かるレベルだろ?
日本のためを思うなら最初から辞退しておけよ老害

14.名前: ローリングソバット(内モンゴル自治区)@\(^o^)/sage
投稿日:2015/07/16(木) 14:44:24.90 ID:oO4+pSheO.net

それって強制労働だろ。金を払わずに労働させるとか始皇帝かよ。

15.名前: トペ コンヒーロ(SB-iPhone)@\(^o^)/sage
投稿日:2015/07/16(木) 14:44:34.48 ID:KKN2gG3g0.net

こんな発言やらかすから今まで外に出されなかったのか…
どんどんぼろが出るぞ

16.名前: 魔神風車固め(中部地方)@\(^o^)/
投稿日:2015/07/16(木) 14:44:53.41 ID:3cn7DD3G0.net

ゼネコンが儲け無しでやったところで1割下がるかどうかだな
そこから材料メーカーや下請け孫請け以下も儲け無しでやれとなれば4割くらい下がるかな

17.名前: 男色ドライバー(新疆ウイグル自治区)@\(^o^)/
投稿日:2015/07/16(木) 14:45:30.15 ID:B7bbTIBE0.net

>>10
そんなの関係ないさ
ゼネコン本体の儲けを少し減らすだけで良いんだから現場の労働者には影響ない

18.名前: 超竜ボム(滋賀県)@\(^o^)/sage
投稿日:2015/07/16(木) 14:46:52.99 ID:ZHa2SxNO0.net

審査は当然無報酬ですよね

19.名前: ミドルキック(千葉県)@\(^o^)/
投稿日:2015/07/16(木) 14:47:05.39 ID:3a44Hly+0.net

戦時中の牟田口中将の激励もこんな感じでムチャクチャだったんだろうなぁ・・・
「何?食料が足りない?弾薬が無い?それが何だ!?お国の為なら素手でも戦えるはずだ!!」

20.名前: ダイビングフットスタンプ(中部地方)@\(^o^)/sage
投稿日:2015/07/16(木) 14:49:03.37 ID:POi9CLHM0.net

よく言ったギャラを返還するんだね

21.名前: 男色ドライバー(新疆ウイグル自治区)@\(^o^)/
投稿日:2015/07/16(木) 14:50:01.27 ID:B7bbTIBE0.net

だいたいさ
人件費100円材料費100円の時に300円で弾いた金額が
人件費200円材料費200円になったから600円になりました
って言ってんだろ
安藤氏は内訳が予想できるから「ゼネコンなんとかせい」と言ってんだよ

22.名前: 32文ロケット砲(dion軍)@\(^o^)/
投稿日:2015/07/16(木) 14:51:04.58 ID:wqVzVAz/0.net

ゼネコン関連が日本の富の再分配を腐らさた一つの要因なんだよな

23.名前: 毒霧(大阪府)@\(^o^)/sage
投稿日:2015/07/16(木) 14:52:08.25 ID:fSa9i0BZ0.net

オリンピック自体が、ゼネコンを儲けさせるためのものでしょ?
本末転倒だ。

24.名前: 栓抜き攻撃(神奈川県)@\(^o^)/
投稿日:2015/07/16(木) 14:52:43.35 ID:az9IerdI0.net

はあ?がんばる???(´・ω・`)

25.名前: 魔神風車固め(中部地方)@\(^o^)/
投稿日:2015/07/16(木) 14:53:47.01 ID:3cn7DD3G0.net

ゼネコンがボロ儲けしとるとかいまだに信じとるんじゃ話にならんわ

26.名前: 膝十字固め(dion軍)@\(^o^)/sage
投稿日:2015/07/16(木) 14:54:14.80 ID:FKurArR00.net

これは正しいと思う
ゼネンコンの下請けが吹っ掛けてると言い訳してもゼネコンの利益はそれ以上に取るからな
政治とゼネコンがつるんで儲ける算段をしてこんな法外な見積もり出してるとしたら(と判ったら)大問題
追求される前に本来の予算近くに自ら落とす方が頭がいい
基地外民主党に突っ込まれてから安くしたのでは敵に塩を送るようなもので愚の骨頂
いずれにしても安くするしかないんだから自主的に安くする方が傷は浅くてすむプライドと金欲を捨てよ

27.名前: セントーン(禿)@\(^o^)/
投稿日:2015/07/16(木) 14:54:46.95 ID:1le7HtSv0.net

中抜きが無駄の最たるものなので下請けを直接雇え
それを一次が取り纏めて指示を出せ
中抜きを無くすだけで人件費が劇的に浮く

28.名前: クロスヒールホールド(北海道)@\(^o^)/
投稿日:2015/07/16(木) 14:55:16.53 ID:O1d9viO20.net

この人、もともと変人だったけど、ココまで他人事みたいな事を言うのか…
ついて行けんわ

29.名前: イス攻撃(岩手県【14:39 岩手県震度2】)@\(^o^)/sage
投稿日:2015/07/16(木) 14:56:42.54 ID:gJoPclrR0.net

欲しがりません勝つまでは

30.名前: アトミックドロップ(SB-iPhone)@\(^o^)/sage
投稿日:2015/07/16(木) 14:57:11.86 ID:bizL5Ioz0.net

どれだけ家族との時間を犠牲にしてると思ってるんだ
赤出せんのや現場は

31.名前: アキレス腱固め(やわらか銀行)@\(^o^)/sage
投稿日:2015/07/16(木) 14:57:20.54 ID:ffN+D98P0.net

>>1
いくら頑張っても2500億を500億にはできないんじゃね

32.名前: キン肉バスター(茸)@\(^o^)/
投稿日:2015/07/16(木) 14:57:58.25 ID:qVxJCcTn0.net

そう言ってる本人は一円も出さないんでしょ?

33.名前: キングコングニードロップ(茸)@\(^o^)/sage
投稿日:2015/07/16(木) 14:57:59.13 ID:DjrEbiTD0.net

損してでもやれ、と特記事項に安藤は今度から書いておけよw
ふざけるなw

34.名前: バックドロップ(埼玉県)@\(^o^)/sage
投稿日:2015/07/16(木) 14:58:27.46 ID:7ddinkKC0.net

さまざまな人が食いものにしようとしたからね
政府主体の事業では良くあること
今回は一気に膨らんだので少しびびったのかもね
毎年補正予算を組んで膨らませていけば目立たなかったのに

35.名前: キチンシンク(catv?)@\(^o^)/sage
投稿日:2015/07/16(木) 14:59:22.87 ID:kVPPwDTP0.net

ゼネコンだってこんな案件受けたくないだろう
建設始まったら基地外デモ隊が周り囲んで妨害されるし
工期が延びて追加予算でも請求しようものなら、全マスコミから一斉攻撃されるんだぞ

36.名前: ウエスタンラリアット(北海道)@\(^o^)/
投稿日:2015/07/16(木) 15:00:35.30 ID:cy7FLiRB0.net

これは要は適正な見積もり取れてないってだけだろ
随意契約とか談合を排除するだけの話で、それでも高いなら今からでも他のデザインに変えろよ

37.名前: 男色ドライバー(新疆ウイグル自治区)@\(^o^)/
投稿日:2015/07/16(木) 15:00:57.44 ID:B7bbTIBE0.net

1300万の家を発注したら、あとから人件費と材料費が高騰したから2500万払ってくれと言われてるようなものだぞ
常識的にあり得ない話なんだよ

38.名前: TEKKAMAKI(dion軍)@\(^o^)/sage
投稿日:2015/07/16(木) 15:01:10.69 ID:WrTqGc3Z0.net

先進国だと思ってたらいつの間にか土人がトップだった件

39.名前: 魔神風車固め(中部地方)@\(^o^)/
投稿日:2015/07/16(木) 15:02:20.63 ID:3cn7DD3G0.net

>>37
初めの1300万が間違ってるんだから間違えたやつにやらせろばーか

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