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大阪出身の沖縄独立論者「理解できない中国脅威論、貿易や観光で密接な関係があるのに・・・」

   

1.名前:名無しさん@涙目です。(庭)@\(^o^)/ [JP]
投稿日:2017/05/21(日) 12:49:58.50 ID:+uvsC+jw0●.net BE:844481327-PLT(13345)

?PLT(13345)


私が独立論者になったのは県費留学生として過ごしたロンドンだった。
研究するしまくとぅばについて語る度、琉球の歴史や現在の政治状況について触れるたび、「それで、独立支持者は何パーセントですか?」と聞かれ続けたが、そのたびに「居酒屋独立論とやゆされていて、独立は夢物語ですよ」と苦笑いで返していた。

しかしある時、スコットランド人の友人に「私たちもパブで独立を語るわよ、併合され不当に扱われてきた地域が独立を語るのはごく当たり前のことでしょ?」と指摘され、そろそろ敗北主義者はやめて正面から琉球の未来について考えてみようと思うようになった。

本書では琉球独立に関する著者の視座が展開されている。
サブタイトルにある通り「歴史を直視することは未来を展望することにつながる」のだが、私たちの多くは学校教育において琉球の歴史を学んだ経験がなく、現代史や世界経済を考える時にも私たちが生きるこの琉球を辺境の島々として捉えてしまうことが多いのではなかろうか。

本書を通して、しまくとぅばを話すとスパイとして処刑された沖縄戦や、ポツダム宣言で日本が琉球に対する領有権を放棄した事実などを学び、世界や日本の経済や政治を琉球の視点で内側から捉え直してみることは、独立という一つの選択肢を選ぶ意義について考えるきっかけになるだろう。

また、第6章では「中国脅威論」が論じられている。
現在、輸出入や製造、観光など密接な関係があるにもかかわらず「中国の脅威」の名の下に琉球弧に新たな自衛隊配備が着々と進められており、島々の軍事化に対する強い懸念の声も上がっている。
去年来沖した米中関係の専門家で、軍事化を憂慮する科学者同盟のグレゴリー・カラッキー博士が「米国から見ると理解しがたい『中国脅威論』だが、沖縄にもそれを信じている人がいるとは驚きだ」と話していたことを思い出し、中国脅威論が琉球にもたらすものの意味について考えたいと感じた。
(親川志奈子・琉球民族独立総合研究学会共同代表)

http://ryukyushimpo.jp/news/entry-499762.html


さと・しょうぞう 1949年大阪市生まれ。75年に沖縄移住。
琉球民族独立総合研究学会会員。会社経営の傍ら、市民運動や平和運動に参加する。

2.名前:名無しさん@涙目です。(庭)@\(^o^)/ [US]
投稿日:2017/05/21(日) 12:50:39.56 ID:HnIPOVd50.net

尖閣

3.名前:名無しさん@涙目です。(千葉県)@\(^o^)/ [AU]
投稿日:2017/05/21(日) 12:50:45.97 ID:Sb0QL5fB0.net

沖縄を独立させる意味が理解できんw

4.名前:名無しさん@涙目です。(滋賀県)@\(^o^)/ [IN]
投稿日:2017/05/21(日) 12:52:06.17 ID:WGQKY65I0.net

再度アメリカに売ればいい
それで一掃される

5.名前:名無しさん@涙目です。(catv?)@\(^o^)/ [JP]
投稿日:2017/05/21(日) 12:52:41.70 ID:w2eJoJvq0.net

南沙諸島で中国が何やってるかは見えないふりか

6.名前:名無しさん@涙目です。(鹿児島県)@\(^o^)/ [ニダ]
投稿日:2017/05/21(日) 12:53:37.22 ID:dEqsaD7/0.net

ブログかと思ったら新聞記事かよ

7.名前:名無しさん@涙目です。(中部地方)@\(^o^)/ [ニダ]
投稿日:2017/05/21(日) 12:53:44.39 ID:xYN04jcx0.net

団塊世代のクズか
本当にこの世代はアホばかりだな

8.名前:名無しさん@涙目です。(やわらか銀行)@\(^o^)/ [NO]sage
投稿日:2017/05/21(日) 12:54:02.22 ID:CI8+wG0Y0.net

だからだ

9.名前:名無しさん@涙目です。(catv?)@\(^o^)/ [ニダ]
投稿日:2017/05/21(日) 12:54:11.99 ID:tvM3LjBR0.net

市民運動 平和運動でお察し

10.名前:名無しさん@涙目です。(家)@\(^o^)/ [ニダ]sage
投稿日:2017/05/21(日) 12:54:26.07 ID:VvgR2sDX0.net

また団塊か

11.名前:名無しさん@涙目です。(大阪府)@\(^o^)/ [JP]
投稿日:2017/05/21(日) 12:54:40.00 ID:Ams+fAQX0.net

ドゥテルテに対してキンペーが言い放った言葉を聞いてもなおそんなこと言えるの?

スポンサーリンク

12.名前:名無しさん@涙目です。(チベット自治区)@\(^o^)/ [ヌコ]
投稿日:2017/05/21(日) 12:54:42.92 ID:zoiCjZCK0.net

戦争するぞごらぁって ドゥテルテ恫喝されてましたがな

13.名前:名無しさん@涙目です。(兵庫県)@\(^o^)/ [US]sage
投稿日:2017/05/21(日) 12:54:53.29 ID:j3h8Ng4C0.net

沖縄生まれ以外発言すんな

14.名前:名無しさん@涙目です。(catv?)@\(^o^)/ [ニダ]sage
投稿日:2017/05/21(日) 12:55:07.84 ID:ID2eIGCY0.net

貿易がある
信頼できる
沖縄をあげてもよい

15.名前:名無しさん@涙目です。(庭)@\(^o^)/ [ニダ]
投稿日:2017/05/21(日) 12:55:29.77 ID:UGymnyS+0.net

アホのネトウヨに土人土人抜かされるので。
先祖帰ります。

さいなら

16.名前:名無しさん@涙目です。(静岡県)@\(^o^)/ [NL]sage
投稿日:2017/05/21(日) 12:56:16.03 ID:OQTdIsWT0.net

未だに革命による共産主義化を夢見ているんだろうな

17.名前:名無しさん@涙目です。(catv?)@\(^o^)/ [ニダ]
投稿日:2017/05/21(日) 12:56:27.78 ID:tvM3LjBR0.net

>>15
日本語としておかしいぞ

18.名前:名無しさん@涙目です。(茸)@\(^o^)/ [US]sage
投稿日:2017/05/21(日) 12:57:57.66 ID:4xsftUJg0.net

沖縄土人死ねよ

19.名前:名無しさん@涙目です。(東京都)@\(^o^)/ [KR]sage
投稿日:2017/05/21(日) 12:58:03.86 ID:k/FhENeH0.net

沖縄を中国に2兆ドルで売って、日本の財政赤字を削減しよう。

20.名前:名無しさん@涙目です。(兵庫県)@\(^o^)/ [DE]
投稿日:2017/05/21(日) 12:58:29.25 ID:oV2Cox4w0.net

密接な関係のある日本は軽視して中国を異常に重んじる姿はもっと理解できませんが

21.名前:名無しさん@涙目です。(SB-iPhone)@\(^o^)/ [US]
投稿日:2017/05/21(日) 12:58:49.86 ID:3D944/5J0.net

沖縄の独立は琉球土人が決めること。パヨクやチョンが決める事ではない。

22.名前:名無しさん@涙目です。(公衆電話)@\(^o^)/ [US]
投稿日:2017/05/21(日) 13:01:22.56 ID:9j3Lh5s70.net

アメリカに再返還。
沖縄土人はサトウキビ畑で強制労働させとけ。

23.名前:名無しさん@涙目です。(神奈川県)@\(^o^)/ [US]
投稿日:2017/05/21(日) 13:01:53.39 ID:aA27XHpD0.net

「理解できない中国脅威論」こういうこと言う奴は必ず同じ口で「日本は軍国主義」だと騒ぐ

24.名前:名無しさん@涙目です。(庭)@\(^o^)/ [ニダ]sage
投稿日:2017/05/21(日) 13:03:11.81 ID:wcfRQ75V0.net

>>19
在日朝鮮人と沖縄人は日本から出て行って欲しい

25.名前:名無しさん@涙目です。(庭)@\(^o^)/ [GB]sage
投稿日:2017/05/21(日) 13:04:01.38 ID:JSovQYGf0.net

バーカw 支那畜左翼擁護者には一生理解出来んだろうw

26.名前:名無しさん@涙目です。(庭)@\(^o^)/ [US]sage
投稿日:2017/05/21(日) 13:04:07.45 ID:fVLF3mQQ0.net

どうせ大正区の沖縄移民2世やろ
嵩原弁護士にシバかれとけ

27.名前:名無しさん@涙目です。(沖縄県)@\(^o^)/ [US]sage
投稿日:2017/05/21(日) 13:04:09.29 ID:hBaA0MPA0.net

沖縄独立論の方が理解できないわ

28.名前:名無しさん@涙目です。(庭)@\(^o^)/ [ニダ]
投稿日:2017/05/21(日) 13:04:34.49 ID:0fiJwfWN0.net

基本的人権のない中国人にはあてはまらないよ

29.名前:名無しさん@涙目です。(神奈川県)@\(^o^)/ [ニダ]sage
投稿日:2017/05/21(日) 13:05:53.83 ID:yTzhPP5o0.net

ぼく「理解できない米軍脅威論、雇用や観光で密接な関係があるのに」

30.名前:名無しさん@涙目です。(京都府)@\(^o^)/ [RU]
投稿日:2017/05/21(日) 13:06:04.90 ID:MemH4q/S0.net

貿易するより自分のものにしたほうがもっと儲かるだろ

31.名前:名無しさん@涙目です。(関東・甲信越)@\(^o^)/ [NO]
投稿日:2017/05/21(日) 13:06:46.29 ID:bNVDwzT5O.net

中国共産党が、尖閣諸島の周辺で何をしているのか。
しっかりニュースを見よ。

32.名前:名無しさん@涙目です。(茸)@\(^o^)/ [US]
投稿日:2017/05/21(日) 13:09:02.37 ID:2o6TZ2Di0.net

独立したら日本円は使えないし
ほとんどの物は輸入品に頼る事になるよね
あっというまに文明退化するか
中国移民に支配されるよね

33.名前:名無しさん@涙目です。(新潟県)@\(^o^)/ [US]
投稿日:2017/05/21(日) 13:09:13.22 ID:9Q7M52S50.net

>>1やさしい人殺しみたいな?
詐欺師もニコニコしながら近づいてくるからな

34.名前:名無しさん@涙目です。(東京都)@\(^o^)/ [BR]
投稿日:2017/05/21(日) 13:09:58.78 ID:oaCNX1yc0.net

中国政府には無頓着なくせに自国政府は一切信用しないという面白い人

35.名前:名無しさん@涙目です。(禿)@\(^o^)/ [NL]
投稿日:2017/05/21(日) 13:12:59.29 ID:IuNQfk1E0.net

沖縄に水爆でも落として跡地を日米の基地にすればいいんじゃないかと

36.名前:名無しさん@涙目です。(チベット自治区)@\(^o^)/ [KR]sage
投稿日:2017/05/21(日) 13:13:10.59 ID:reqm0ZYW0.net

密接な関係があるとどう考えられないんだろ?

37.名前:名無しさん@涙目です。(中部地方)@\(^o^)/ [ニダ]
投稿日:2017/05/21(日) 13:13:31.28 ID:xYN04jcx0.net

中国の対沖縄貿易額なんて全体からみたらカス以下。しかも沖縄の代替なんていくらでもある

そもそも戦前の日本とアメリカだって貿易はしてた

軍事的政治的に必要なら占領または傀儡政権作らせるだけ

38.名前:名無しさん@涙目です。(新疆ウイグル自治区)@\(^o^)/ [ZA]sage
投稿日:2017/05/21(日) 13:14:19.20 ID:a7FnJJyr0.net

なら日本本土との関係のほうが密接でしょw

39.名前:名無しさん@涙目です。(茸)@\(^o^)/ [US]
投稿日:2017/05/21(日) 13:15:17.56 ID:2IuZG9OH0.net

大阪に住んどったらイキナリDQNやら気違いとエンカウントするやろが
Chinaはアレと一緒や、って言うたら理解出来るかなこのジジイ

40.名前:名無しさん@涙目です。(滋賀県)@\(^o^)/ [EU]
投稿日:2017/05/21(日) 13:15:21.45 ID:8vhOuLof0.net

なんで中国は安全だと言い切れるんだろ?
沖縄の資源取られても文句言わないのかな?

41.名前:名無しさん@涙目です。(東京都)@\(^o^)/ [ニダ]sage
投稿日:2017/05/21(日) 13:17:30.57 ID:z3JYZBSQ0.net

孔子学院は中国共産党の宣伝機関
米の学者協会が警鐘

【新唐人2017年5月5日】
http://jp.ntdtv.com/
https://youtu.be/qNisbrQ7JAE

全米学者協会が孔子学院に関する報告書を発表しました。報告書では、中国政府が孔子学院を通じて政治イデオロギーを世界に輸出し、アメリカの大学における学問の自由を侵害していると指摘し、
大学内に設置されている孔子学院はすべて閉鎖するべきと訴えています。同協会は報告書発表に伴い、ドキュメンタリー映画「孔子の名義で(In the Name of Confucius)」を初めて上映しました。

全米学者協会はまず、大学内に開設されている12校の孔子学院から調査を始めることにしました。そして2年間かけてまとめられたのが「中国にアウトソーシング:アメリカの高等教育機関の中の孔子学院とそのソフトパワー」と題するのが今回の報告書です。
報告書は中国政府が孔子学院を通じて自分の政治イデオロギーを世界に輸出し、アメリカの大学における学問の自由を侵害していると指摘しています。

全米学者協会会長 ピーター・ウッド氏:「調査により、孔子学院を使って中国の国家的な力がアメリカの大学の中にまで及んでいることが証明されました。本当に驚くべきことです。」

現在アメリカには103の孔子学院と501の孔子クラスがあります。中国政府は「漢弁」という政府機関を通じて孔子学院に資金、書籍、教師の提供を行っています。

42.名前:名無しさん@涙目です。(広島県)@\(^o^)/ [DE]sage
投稿日:2017/05/21(日) 13:19:52.19 ID:O/W/dFwv0.net

今の韓国見ろよ
THHAD一つで観光止められて貿易にも制限かけてるだろ
台湾も観光止められたろ、選挙の結果で

43.名前:名無しさん@涙目です。(茸)@\(^o^)/ [GB]sage
投稿日:2017/05/21(日) 13:20:14.71 ID:dHk2TZJl0.net

それで、独立支持者は何パーセントですか?

44.名前:名無しさん@涙目です。(チベット自治区)@\(^o^)/ [US]
投稿日:2017/05/21(日) 13:21:05.20 ID:KcHSU6of0.net

大阪に米軍基地が無いから
アメリカとの「密接な関係」が判らないのかもしれない

45.名前:名無しさん@涙目です。(新疆ウイグル自治区)@\(^o^)/ [DE]
投稿日:2017/05/21(日) 13:24:39.04 ID:P5J2J4g30.net

仮に沖縄独立しても周りの小島が東京都所属だから好きに漁出来ないし領空通過許可もらえなければ飛行機での移動も難しいんだが

46.名前:名無しさん@涙目です。(やわらか銀行)@\(^o^)/ [NO]
投稿日:2017/05/21(日) 13:27:38.75 ID:apTQ5xAS0.net

日本は言論の自由が保障されていてよかったね

中国国内で独立運動なんかしたら
今頃CIA工作員みたいに殺害されてるよ

47.名前:名無しさん@涙目です。(東京都)@\(^o^)/ [EG]
投稿日:2017/05/21(日) 13:27:50.44 ID:oIKNTlmw0.net

沖縄県民の殆どは日本からの独立なんぞ考えてもいないのに
内地の外国人が独立を煽るこの不自然さ

48.名前:名無しさん@涙目です。(庭)@\(^o^)/ [SE]sage
投稿日:2017/05/21(日) 13:28:52.81 ID:hl0i+Sg10.net

70年安保闘争の中核派かよ

49.名前:名無しさん@涙目です。(やわらか銀行)@\(^o^)/ [DE]
投稿日:2017/05/21(日) 13:30:04.62 ID:Gw0hRJd90.net

>現在、輸出入や製造、観光など密接な関係があるにもかかわらず

バカチョンサヨクのアメリカ帝国主義脅威論は?

50.名前:名無しさん@涙目です。(広西チワン族自治区)@\(^o^)/ [NL]
投稿日:2017/05/21(日) 13:31:25.90 ID:jRx1GcEoO.net

トンガなんか侵略一歩手前まで来ちゃってるじゃん テレビで見たけど

シナと公平な貿易や観光は不可能だからな

シナは日本の著作物を侵害した上で、日本の登録商標を認めない事で販路を遮断して中国が優位になるようズルをしてくる

観光面でもスパイ容疑のでっち上げで日本人を不当逮捕して人質にする

51.名前:名無しさん@涙目です。(埼玉県)@\(^o^)/ [ニダ]
投稿日:2017/05/21(日) 13:32:22.62 ID:5xbc9Abc0.net

大阪、団塊、欧米かぶれ

52.名前:名無しさん@涙目です。(新潟県)@\(^o^)/ [DE]
投稿日:2017/05/21(日) 13:32:48.83 ID:/HZiv6Fe0.net

気付いたら沖縄が中国になってるパターンだな

53.名前:名無しさん@涙目です。(新疆ウイグル自治区)@\(^o^)/ [US]sage
投稿日:2017/05/21(日) 13:35:41.98 ID:7pmfhhKT0.net

大阪出身の中華だからだろ

54.名前:名無しさん@涙目です。(やわらか銀行)@\(^o^)/ [DE]
投稿日:2017/05/21(日) 13:35:55.61 ID:Gw0hRJd90.net

沖縄と経済で密接な関係がある米軍

55.名前:名無しさん@涙目です。(千葉県)@\(^o^)/ [JP]sage
投稿日:2017/05/21(日) 13:36:10.50 ID:Q8MKVRKl0.net

>>1
大阪でやれ

56.名前:名無しさん@涙目です。(庭)@\(^o^)/ [US]sage
投稿日:2017/05/21(日) 13:36:47.88 ID:QyNtJbVq0.net

>(親川志奈子・琉球民族独立総合研究学会共同代表)

>さと・しょうぞう
琉球民族独立総合研究学会会員

要するに本売って活動資金にしたいだけじゃん

57.名前:名無しさん@涙目です。(やわらか銀行)@\(^o^)/ [DE]
投稿日:2017/05/21(日) 13:38:30.34 ID:Gw0hRJd90.net

検索しても誰なんだグレゴリー・カラッキー

58.名前:名無しさん@涙目です。(庭)@\(^o^)/ [ニダ]
投稿日:2017/05/21(日) 13:43:14.28 ID:UGymnyS+0.net

みんな大好き自称沖縄保守の三等兵
(内地放送・沖縄独立派の画策とは?)

その1
翁長は中国と手を組んでいる↓
琉球列島海底熱水鉱床(約500兆円)の共同開発。沖縄近海には11箇所の海底熱水鉱床(資産価値約500兆円)が埋蔵されている。
その2
那覇市に(中国属領の証)龍柱を建設
その3
孔子廟なる施設の建設

顔真っ赤で本土人に熱く説明→保守論客とかぬかす、本土人はホルホル拍手大喝采??
あれ見間違いですか?

ありもしないへんちくりんなロジックを張って、自国文化攻撃している事にも気づかない。さら、沖縄左翼暗黒島なる風評をまく?
沖縄県は保守地盤です

そんな宝が埋まっとるならいっそ、かっぽじって独立したるわ。

さいなら本土人

59.名前:名無しさん@涙目です。(やわらか銀行)@\(^o^)/ [DE]
投稿日:2017/05/21(日) 13:43:33.18 ID:Gw0hRJd90.net

「沖縄独立論」の真意

沖縄タイムス論説委員などを歴任したあと詩人となった川満信一氏は
1981年、「新沖縄文学」に「琉球共和社会憲法C私(試)案」を発表、
反戦・平和運動家の間で大いに評判になった。
だが、その内容は「軍備の廃止」にとどまらず
「警察・検察・裁判所の廃止」や「私有財産の否定」「商行為の禁止」
にまで及ぶなどあまりに過激で住民の支持を受けることはなかったのである。
http://www.zakzak.co.jp/society/politics/news/20110729/plt1107290945001-n1.htm

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