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中卒、資格なし職歴なし、賞罰ありなんだがどうやったら働けるんだ?高認とかっての取ればいいのか

   

1.名前: バーニングハンマー(禿)@\(^o^)/ [FR]
投稿日:2017/03/27(月) 11:10:13.25 ID:pNpBfIO90.net BE:226456927-PLT(12522)

?PLT(12522)


高等学校卒業程度認定試験の問題集や参考書を、「しまりすの親方」というペンネームで書き続ける方がいます。認定試験の予備校や学校、先生、生徒の中では「カリスマ」で、その正体は、都司嘉宣(つじ・よしのぶ)さん(69)です。
都司さんは東京大学地震研究所の准教授として、津波などの研究を長年にわたりしてきたことで知られます。娘さんが高校を中途退学したことで、中学や高校の教育、
さらに高卒認定試験などのあり方に問題意識を持つようになりました。都司さんのくわしいキャリアは、「“灘中→麻布高校→東大”で、抱き続けた劣等感」( http://president.jp/articles/-/17035)で紹介しました。

対談の相手は、森安梨沙(ありさ)さんです。高校を1年のときに辞めて、昨年(2016年)、高卒認定受験予備校である、中央高等学院に入学しました。
中央高等学院は、通信制高校サポート校であり、大学受験の予備校でもあります。森さんは入学半年後に、
認定試験(高等学校卒業程度認定試験)を突破し、東京家政大学の入学試験にも合格しました。この4月から大学生となります。

今回から3回にわけて2人の対談を紹介します。この対談を通じて、見えてくるものは何でしょうか、一緒に考えたいと思います。

「高卒」でないとあらゆる道が閉ざされている

(写真)
今春、大学生になる森安梨沙さん。
http://president.jp/articles/-/21650?display=b

2.名前: 稲妻レッグラリアット(東京都)@\(^o^)/ [JP]
投稿日:2017/03/27(月) 11:10:50.25 ID:1yuiEAqM0.net

どんな賞を貰ったの?

3.名前: 雪崩式ブレーンバスター(大阪府)@\(^o^)/ [US]
投稿日:2017/03/27(月) 11:10:51.26 ID:x/7wR4CM0.net

うちの工場へ来い

4.名前: バーニングハンマー(禿)@\(^o^)/ [FR]
投稿日:2017/03/27(月) 11:11:22.72 ID:pNpBfIO90

?PLT(12522)


罰なんだが

5.名前: タイガースープレックス(SB-iPhone)@\(^o^)/ [ニダ]sage
投稿日:2017/03/27(月) 11:12:01.95 ID:TGJt8YKT0.net

まず刃物を買います

6.名前: 稲妻レッグラリアット(東京都)@\(^o^)/ [JP]
投稿日:2017/03/27(月) 11:12:05.41 ID:1yuiEAqM0.net

>>4
あぁ・・・

7.名前: パロスペシャル(茸)@\(^o^)/ [ニダ]sage
投稿日:2017/03/27(月) 11:12:22.95 ID:eOyMs1ji0.net

黙って去ね

8.名前: フライングニールキック(東京都)@\(^o^)/ [US]sage
投稿日:2017/03/27(月) 11:12:59.95 ID:AycYucpW0.net

起業したら?

9.名前: レッドインク(広西チワン族自治区)@\(^o^)/ [FR]
投稿日:2017/03/27(月) 11:13:09.93 ID:AGDfcb7RO.net

久利生公平は中卒で検事やってた
資格取得すればいいんじゃね

10.名前: シューティングスタープレス(大阪府)@\(^o^)/ [US]
投稿日:2017/03/27(月) 11:13:41.25 ID:r62WxYnz0.net

賞罰ありってわかりづらく書かねーで
前科ありって書けよ

11.名前: レインメーカー(茸)@\(^o^)/ [BR]sage
投稿日:2017/03/27(月) 11:13:50.74 ID:/1iUUnhM0.net

二重国籍で国会議員

スポンサーリンク

12.名前: レインメーカー(愛知県)@\(^o^)/ [ニダ]sage
投稿日:2017/03/27(月) 11:15:18.13 ID:WeCApXl10.net

高認は短大やら大学やらの試験受けられるようになるだけで
それだけじゃ何の意味もないぞ

13.名前: ダイビングエルボードロップ(茸)@\(^o^)/ [ニダ]sage
投稿日:2017/03/27(月) 11:15:18.36 ID:UPSE5xuR0.net

スシ職人なんてそんなやつばっかりやん

14.名前: キングコングラリアット(東京都)@\(^o^)/ [GB]
投稿日:2017/03/27(月) 11:15:29.62 ID:h/FqA8CV0.net

ヒント 奴隷

15.名前: ニールキック(大阪府)@\(^o^)/ [CN]
投稿日:2017/03/27(月) 11:15:45.91 ID:lwZFIph/0.net

どうやって暮らしていけばいいか分からん・・・

16.名前: ニーリフト(catv?)@\(^o^)/ [US]sage
投稿日:2017/03/27(月) 11:16:11.14 ID:J6gsl5QA0.net

ブラック企業と呼ばれてるとこで2年以上経験積んでから転職
IT系ならCCNAあたり持ってれば中卒でも12時間勤務で昼夜逆転を二日おきにするような仕事なら採用される
無難なのは営業職だね、飛び込み営業の経験あると転職しやすいよ

17.名前: キチンシンク(東京都)@\(^o^)/ [CO]
投稿日:2017/03/27(月) 11:16:23.06 ID:FFjzGvsb0.net

表彰されたことあるんやったら大丈夫やろ

18.名前: フォーク攻撃(やわらか銀行)@\(^o^)/ [US]
投稿日:2017/03/27(月) 11:17:00.86 ID:CH4kA2HZ0.net

①先ず、スポーツ新聞を買います
②家に持って帰ります
③玄関、もしくは部屋の鍵を開けます
③入ります
④靴を脱ぎます
⑤台所に行きます
⑥飲み物を持って部屋に行きます
⑦かばんを持ってたら置きます
⑧部屋着があったら着替えます
⑨新聞を机か床に置きます
⑩開きます
⑪どんどん開きます
⑫真ん中程度で止めます
⑬下の求人コーナーがあります
⑭学歴職歴不問を探します
⑮というか、そこに載ってるのは大抵学歴職歴不問です
⑯気に入った所があったら電話します

19.名前: グロリア(チベット自治区)@\(^o^)/ [TW]
投稿日:2017/03/27(月) 11:17:09.75 ID:rOWF3x2p0.net

都司さん結婚して子供までいたんだ・・・
ショック・・・

20.名前: マシンガンチョップ(茸)@\(^o^)/ [DE]hage
投稿日:2017/03/27(月) 11:17:28.50 ID:xIS7pR8S0.net

海外に行けよ

21.名前: ドラゴンスープレックス(愛知県)@\(^o^)/ [US]
投稿日:2017/03/27(月) 11:18:36.26 ID:EDMa32gh0.net

町工場だけどどう?

22.名前: トペ スイシーダ(埼玉県)@\(^o^)/ [GB]
投稿日:2017/03/27(月) 11:18:36.60 ID:4TK9J6Fj0.net

人が就きたがらない職業とかあるでしょう?

23.名前:(dion軍)@\(^o^)/ [US]
投稿日:2017/03/27(月) 11:19:24.45 .net

世の中、マトモな経歴など
ない奴が大半だから気にするな。

企業も誰も来なくて困ってるとこもある。
とりあえず人間ならいいか、
というとこもある。

24.名前: タイガードライバー(庭)@\(^o^)/ [US]sage
投稿日:2017/03/27(月) 11:20:01.31 ID:lFqauNHE0.net

プログラミングと英語ができるなら仕事は必ずある
仕事がないとか言ってる奴はただの甘え
上級国民の搾取がーとか言い出す奴は真性のバカ

25.名前: 男色ドライバー(チベット自治区)@\(^o^)/ [JP]sage
投稿日:2017/03/27(月) 11:20:27.73 ID:r58IOcCJ0.net

今まで働かずに生きてこられたのに働く必要があるか?
働く必要がないなら働かなきゃ生きていけないやつの席を奪うな

26.名前: ときめきメモリアル(東京都)@\(^o^)/ [SE]
投稿日:2017/03/27(月) 11:21:47.61 ID:AECAlL+d0.net

働いてもほぼ奴隷扱いだよな
俺なら一発狙い外れたら死ぬ覚悟でFX

27.名前: ファイヤーバードスプラッシュ(埼玉県)@\(^o^)/ [EU]sage
投稿日:2017/03/27(月) 11:21:47.81 ID:8pixoUhv0.net

>>1
休みはないし給料も僅かで保険なんかも加入してないけど、文句を言わずに真面目に働いてくれるなら歓迎するよ

28.名前: エルボーバット(禿)@\(^o^)/ [JP]
投稿日:2017/03/27(月) 11:21:54.66 ID:X6KeBWn90.net

擁護はしない…後はわかるだろ
…火…自爆…他人に迷惑かけんなよ
日本人なら

29.名前: 男色ドライバー(家)@\(^o^)/ [US]
投稿日:2017/03/27(月) 11:21:57.63 ID:HFRqGti00.net

そこまで能無しだと政治家くらいしか出来ないと思う。
人心掌握術でも身に着けて。

30.名前: ムーンサルトプレス(庭)@\(^o^)/ [DK]sage
投稿日:2017/03/27(月) 11:22:52.43 ID:A/vxtONA0.net

ナマポもらえ

31.名前: ラダームーンサルト(新潟県)@\(^o^)/ [US]sage
投稿日:2017/03/27(月) 11:23:01.62 ID:NtC6hYoM0.net

それもう選り好みしてられんやつや

32.名前: グロリア(チベット自治区)@\(^o^)/ [TW]
投稿日:2017/03/27(月) 11:23:27.72 ID:rOWF3x2p0.net

ろくに指導もしないで規則違反上等で労災で機械に潰されて死ぬような職場しかないだろうな

33.名前: トペ コンヒーロ(東京都)@\(^o^)/ [US]sage
投稿日:2017/03/27(月) 11:24:32.37 ID:Int3hgWK0.net

ナマポ貰えるだけ貰っとけ

34.名前: 雪崩式ブレーンバスター(神奈川県)@\(^o^)/ [US]
投稿日:2017/03/27(月) 11:24:49.89 ID:rbRu6iP10.net

前科、前歴ありですか
死んだ方がいいですね

35.名前: リバースネックブリーカー(東京都)@\(^o^)/ [US]sage
投稿日:2017/03/27(月) 11:25:36.16 ID:LONLrXPX0.net

 
20代ならいくらでも仕事あるべ
 
ポイントはちゃんとキャリア(経験)となる仕事に就け
 
コンビニ店員パチ屋店員とかしょうもない仕事はやめろ
 
できれば資格もとれる職場な
 

36.名前: ファイヤーボールスプラッシュ(東京都)@\(^o^)/ [ニダ]sage
投稿日:2017/03/27(月) 11:26:15.38 ID:7fLP1Tgv0.net

履歴書嘘書けばいい

37.名前: パイルドライバー(庭)@\(^o^)/ [US]
投稿日:2017/03/27(月) 11:26:41.55 ID:ksNEfYdg0.net

選んでる場合ちゃうな。片っ端から受けてみるしかない。

38.名前: ファイヤーボールスプラッシュ(東京都)@\(^o^)/ [ニダ]sage
投稿日:2017/03/27(月) 11:27:23.34 ID:7fLP1Tgv0.net

二年働いて辞めて失業保険
二年働いて辞めて失業保険の繰り返す

39.名前: 16文キック(内モンゴル自治区)@\(^o^)/ [BR]sage
投稿日:2017/03/27(月) 11:27:40.51 ID:AVv/Sl1kO.net

>>1
夜間学校へ通いながらバイトすれば良い

40.名前: グロリア(熊本県)@\(^o^)/ [US]
投稿日:2017/03/27(月) 11:28:41.73 ID:O0r6mZIo0.net

東証一部の社長で中卒いるから諦めるなよ

41.名前: ローリングソバット(北海道)@\(^o^)/ [US]sage
投稿日:2017/03/27(月) 11:28:42.24 ID:kaJfMuG+0.net

新聞記者、雑誌編集
学歴無しで無資格・無免許でもやれ仕事だぞ
頑張れ!

42.名前: クロスヒールホールド(東京都)@\(^o^)/ [US]sage
投稿日:2017/03/27(月) 11:28:52.27 ID:m56fTcE10.net

>>1
年齢は?

43.名前: セントーン(catv?)@\(^o^)/ [US]
投稿日:2017/03/27(月) 11:29:05.58 ID:UaPWN6/o0.net

彼女中学1日も行ってないけど高校卒業のやつとって調理師やってる。

44.名前: 垂直落下式DDT(茸)@\(^o^)/ [US]
投稿日:2017/03/27(月) 11:29:27.96 ID:hb6WZcUH0.net

中華料理屋いってフライパン振れ

45.名前: タイガースープレックス(やわらか銀行)@\(^o^)/ [CN]sage
投稿日:2017/03/27(月) 11:29:28.15 ID:UOnYPg2y0.net

27歳大卒工場勤務歴4年あり現在無職
 
どうしたらいい?

46.名前: バックドロップホールド(東京都)@\(^o^)/ [ニダ]sage
投稿日:2017/03/27(月) 11:34:24.13 ID:WX8QXI1O0.net

山口さんちの門を叩いてみればいいよ

47.名前: ドラゴンスリーパー(catv?)@\(^o^)/ [US]
投稿日:2017/03/27(月) 11:34:36.95 ID:jTyJlxli0.net

>>45
工場でのポジションが分からんが、それ活かせるところ探すのが無難

48.名前: ウエスタンラリアット(庭)@\(^o^)/ [KR]sage
投稿日:2017/03/27(月) 11:36:21.11 ID:ADqUcDI70.net

>>18
これだな

49.名前: ドラゴンスリーパー(庭)@\(^o^)/ [ニダ]
投稿日:2017/03/27(月) 11:36:42.77 ID:i75p4hUE0.net

賞罰ってなに?

50.名前: アルゼンチンバックブリーカー(dion軍)@\(^o^)/ [ニダ]
投稿日:2017/03/27(月) 11:37:10.21 ID:F2RV2Ma40.net

やる気あるなら雇ってやるよ

51.名前: アルゼンチンバックブリーカー(dion軍)@\(^o^)/ [ニダ]
投稿日:2017/03/27(月) 11:38:05.64 ID:F2RV2Ma40.net

>>45
ハロワ行けばいくらでもある

52.名前: バズソーキック(東京都)@\(^o^)/ [KR]
投稿日:2017/03/27(月) 11:39:43.52 ID:8m6j9Meg0.net

鉄筋工とか型枠工は技術いるけど、塗装工なら出来ると思う。
養生だけキチンとやれば、あとは大した技術いらないし、中卒が普通だし。
先輩風を吹かすヤツを適当に持ち上げとけば、親切に仕事教えてくれるよ。

53.名前: ファイナルカット(茸)@\(^o^)/ [SE]
投稿日:2017/03/27(月) 11:40:01.25 ID:ozC+D8Ct0.net

>>45
正社員歴あるなら余裕じゃね?
地方の田舎でしか生きられない体質とかなら知らんが

54.名前: バズソーキック(庭)@\(^o^)/ [KZ]sage
投稿日:2017/03/27(月) 11:40:19.21 ID:NoHKYb9F0.net

学校でふるい落しされた層だから
中卒ならそれなりの仕事つくのが
社会の義務じゃないかな。

55.名前: 32文ロケット砲(兵庫県)@\(^o^)/ [CA]
投稿日:2017/03/27(月) 11:40:22.47 ID:l2MNr/3G0.net

>>9
同じものでも能力あれば資格とれる時代と大学行かないと絶対に資格とれない時代とありまして

56.名前: 閃光妖術(catv?)@\(^o^)/ [EU]sage
投稿日:2017/03/27(月) 11:40:41.88 ID:MseuX6gS0.net

福島いけばいいんじゃね?

57.名前: タイガースープレックス(やわらか銀行)@\(^o^)/ [CN]sage
投稿日:2017/03/27(月) 11:41:40.79 ID:UOnYPg2y0.net

>>47,51,53
ウジウジしてないで行ってみます
ありがとう

58.名前: ドラゴンスリーパー(catv?)@\(^o^)/ [US]
投稿日:2017/03/27(月) 11:42:05.92 ID:jTyJlxli0.net

賞罰ありって傭兵でもやってたんか?

59.名前: ファイナルカット(滋賀県)@\(^o^)/ [CN]
投稿日:2017/03/27(月) 11:44:18.92 ID:Uxvn/kHQ0.net

今から勉強すれば年内に
宅建、FP2級3級、簿記2級3級、
2種電気工事士、乙4種危険物、
コレぐらいは取れるし、
常識として知ってた方が良い
まあ俺は宅建と簿記3級、家電アドバイザー(失効)しかもって無いけどな

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