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上海で9年間働く日本人「中国で働いて分かった、日本人の仕事に対する考え方は奴隷そのもの」

   

1.名前:名無しさん@涙目です。(埼玉県)@\(^o^)/ [GB]
投稿日:2017/07/05(水) 11:29:55.33 ID:sOm0PgoN0.net BE:479913954-2BP(1931)


上海で9年働く日本人が語る、日本人と中国人の仕事に対する考え方の違い=中国メディア

 中国メディア・今日頭条は25日「上海で9年働いている日本人が語る、日本人と中国人との仕事のやり方、考え方の違い4選」とする記事を掲載した。
両者の思考方法や慣習が大きく異なることは、すでに言われて久しいが、改めて比較してみるとやはり違いの大きさに驚かされる。
 
 記事は「仕事のやり方や仕事への態度において、中国人と日本人では大きく異なる。日本の同僚と中国の同僚と長年付き合ってきたことで、
自分の思考パターンにも大きな変化が生まれた」と語る日本人が挙げた、両者の間に存在する大きな違いを4点紹介している。
 
 1つ目は「日本人は会社に帰属し、中国人は会社に個人の能力を提供するだけの関係」という点だ。
日本人は自己紹介で「○○社の△△です」という名乗り方をするほど会社への帰属意識が高い一方、中国人は希望の給料を出してもらえなければすぐに別の会社へと移っていくと説明した。
 
 2点目は「中国人は仕事より個人の事情を優先する」点。例えばみんなで遅くまで残業するなか、プロジェクトリーダーが
「ごめん、今日は子どもの誕生日だから帰る」と言って帰るのは、日本人にとってみれば極めて無責任な話であると解説している。
 
 3つ目は「日本人は上下関係を重んじ、中国人は個人の感情を大事にする」ことを挙げた。上司に対する不満を持っていても往々にして黙っているのが日本人で、
中国人はたとえ上司であっても自分より能力が低いと判断すれば命令に従わないうえ、時には上司を批判することすらあるとした。
 
 そして4つ目は「日本人はルールを守り、中国人は結果のみを重視する」ことだ。記事は、この日本人が「結果が同じであればルールに沿ったプロセスであるかどうかを気にしないのが中国人。
ルールを破壊するにもなるが、中国人の知恵には確かに敬服せざるを得ない」と感想を述べたことを伝えている。
 
続く

http://news.searchina.net/id/1638558?page=1

2.名前:名無しさん@涙目です。(埼玉県)@\(^o^)/ [GB]
投稿日:2017/07/05(水) 11:30:14.93 ID:sOm0PgoN0.net

続き

 「慎重かつ大胆に」という言葉を見聞きすることがある。日本人の慎重さは大切だが、慎重になりすぎていざという時に動けないのは問題だ。
かたや中国人の大胆さは時として大きな成果を生むが、慎重さに欠けることで破たんのリスクも背負っている。慎重になるべきところは慎重に、それでいて大胆に攻めるべきところはアタックを仕掛ける。
「慎重かつ大胆に」というのはまさに、日本人と中国人の考え方を融合した概念と言えるのではないだろうか。(編集担当:今関忠馬)(イメージ写真提供:123RF)

3.名前:名無しさん@涙目です。(オーストラリア)@\(^o^)/ [US]sage
投稿日:2017/07/05(水) 11:31:15.42 ID:77OevZN40.net

同感

4.名前:名無しさん@涙目です。(やわらか銀行)@\(^o^)/ [CN]
投稿日:2017/07/05(水) 11:31:42.16 ID:U/UNmqDq0.net

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5.名前:名無しさん@涙目です。(鳥取県)@\(^o^)/ [FR]
投稿日:2017/07/05(水) 11:33:42.51 ID:LSHJQQHl0.net

日本人の慎重さは大切だが、慎重になりすぎていざという時に動けないのは問題だ。

ここはそう思う

6.名前:名無しさん@涙目です。(愛知県)@\(^o^)/ [US]sage
投稿日:2017/07/05(水) 11:33:55.67 ID:MUX+ZLmv0.net

ソース読んで納得する人は中国式が合うんだろう
俺は無理
やっぱり日本人だなと実感した

7.名前:名無しさん@涙目です。(茸)@\(^o^)/ [ニダ]sage
投稿日:2017/07/05(水) 11:34:58.47 ID:gB4w+VK60.net

だからなんだって話
その結果あの民度なんだし、ああなりたいか?

8.名前:名無しさん@涙目です。(広西チワン族自治区)@\(^o^)/ [SE]
投稿日:2017/07/05(水) 11:36:01.31 ID:Ma0s4t0hO.net

本気で死ね、中国と朝鮮半島とロシア

中国は世界中で迷惑かけてんじゃねぇか、全人類のお荷物が死ね
食糧、環境、経済、人口、紛争戦争、自由、人権、ありとあらゆる面でテメェが大迷惑なんだろうが、死ね

9.名前:名無しさん@涙目です。(庭)@\(^o^)/ [IE]
投稿日:2017/07/05(水) 11:36:24.38 ID:lHENhZj+0.net

中国というか外国ではそんな感じだと昔から聞いてるか。

10.名前:名無しさん@涙目です。(東京都)@\(^o^)/ [US]sage
投稿日:2017/07/05(水) 11:36:59.79 ID:l7JiCQv30.net

中国メディア

11.名前:名無しさん@涙目です。(広西チワン族自治区)@\(^o^)/ [US]
投稿日:2017/07/05(水) 11:37:04.99 ID:0Ssm2CxaO.net

日本人が家畜人なだけだ

スポンサーリンク

12.名前:名無しさん@涙目です。(庭)@\(^o^)/ [US]
投稿日:2017/07/05(水) 11:37:12.60 ID:uZpZHt8v0.net

日本人で良かった

13.名前:名無しさん@涙目です。(茸)@\(^o^)/ [AT]sage
投稿日:2017/07/05(水) 11:37:18.91 ID:3qaukZqH0.net

>>7
民度は教育や生活環境の問題だろ

14.名前:名無しさん@涙目です。(新疆ウイグル自治区)@\(^o^)/ [ニダ]
投稿日:2017/07/05(水) 11:37:27.12 ID:TcgCqtln0.net

まぁ優劣で言うと中国式の方がやや優だろうな
日本人はビビリ無能が多すぎる
そのくせ自分は中国人より優秀だと思い込みたがる

15.名前:名無しさん@涙目です。(茸)@\(^o^)/ [US]sage
投稿日:2017/07/05(水) 11:37:30.08 ID:Wk/7IiEK0.net

本文読んだけど
やっぱ日本式の方がいいです

16.名前:名無しさん@涙目です。(佐賀県)@\(^o^)/ [DE]sage
投稿日:2017/07/05(水) 11:37:42.11 ID:qgfkobys0.net

出る杭は打たれるのがジャップですから

17.名前:名無しさん@涙目です。(庭)@\(^o^)/ [US]
投稿日:2017/07/05(水) 11:38:19.58 ID:qpk4Gn8A0.net

一人の日本人の意見が全国民では無い

18.名前:名無しさん@涙目です。(茸)@\(^o^)/ [US]
投稿日:2017/07/05(水) 11:38:36.33 ID:xpbew6SF0.net

4つめは流石にどうかと思うわ

19.名前:名無しさん@涙目です。(庭)@\(^o^)/ [IE]
投稿日:2017/07/05(水) 11:38:50.21 ID:lHENhZj+0.net

日本社会が奴隷制度なのはわかる。
世界三位の経済力があると海外に支援している日本の将来が絶望しか無いみたいに言われているから、やっぱり何かがおかしい。
科学も発展した経済力も上から三番目
なのに、絶望しか無い国

20.名前:名無しさん@涙目です。(やわらか銀行)@\(^o^)/ [EU]
投稿日:2017/07/05(水) 11:39:05.63 ID:4MJYXn1/0.net

>中国人は希望の給料を出してもらえなければすぐに別の会社へと移っていくと説明した。
こういう風潮はいいと思うわ
日本だと職を転々としてると悪い印象しかないからなぁ

21.名前:名無しさん@涙目です。(新疆ウイグル自治区)@\(^o^)/ [ニダ]
投稿日:2017/07/05(水) 11:39:17.62 ID:TcgCqtln0.net

高品質な商品を作って
低品質な商品よりたくさん売る
までがビジネス

作っただけで満足してるバカが多すぎるのが日本式の劣ポイント

22.名前:名無しさん@涙目です。(西日本)@\(^o^)/ [US]
投稿日:2017/07/05(水) 11:39:30.61 ID:4eX9VDJs0.net

おまえらはガッツキすぎなんだよ。良くも悪くも個人事業主というか、カネになるなら何でもやりすぎ。爆買いだって要は個人輸入だし。

23.名前:名無しさん@涙目です。(空)@\(^o^)/ [US]sage
投稿日:2017/07/05(水) 11:40:17.02 ID:hvaPKghH0.net

結果が良ければルールなんてどうでもいい

ケニアの橋、崩落しましたけど…

24.名前:名無しさん@涙目です。(兵庫県)@\(^o^)/ [EU]
投稿日:2017/07/05(水) 11:40:29.41 ID:uEIaOkol0.net

中国人は時間をかけて仕事を教えてもすぐ消える薄情者

25.名前:名無しさん@涙目です。(兵庫県)@\(^o^)/ [KR]
投稿日:2017/07/05(水) 11:41:13.99 ID:iw54MIcH0.net

> 日本人はルールを守り、中国人は結果のみを重視する

そりゃこういう考え方ならパクりかどうかなど気にせんわな

26.名前:名無しさん@涙目です。(庭)@\(^o^)/ [US]sage
投稿日:2017/07/05(水) 11:41:24.79 ID:efMnmZw20.net

>>1
戦争になれば日本が勝つって事ね

27.名前:名無しさん@涙目です。(庭)@\(^o^)/ [IE]
投稿日:2017/07/05(水) 11:41:51.03 ID:lHENhZj+0.net

日本は島国村社会逃げ場がないからいい加減は出来ない。大陸はどこでも逃げれるんだろ。

28.名前:名無しさん@涙目です。(新疆ウイグル自治区)@\(^o^)/ [US]
投稿日:2017/07/05(水) 11:41:56.02 ID:UO8lyf+p0.net

中国人の知恵なあ・・・ギャグとしては最高やと思うで

29.名前:名無しさん@涙目です。(庭)@\(^o^)/ [NA]
投稿日:2017/07/05(水) 11:41:57.52 ID:4SWE7VY90.net

中国は欧州と似ている

日本は韓国と似ているwwwwww

30.名前:名無しさん@涙目です。(やわらか銀行)@\(^o^)/ [NL]sage
投稿日:2017/07/05(水) 11:41:59.33 ID:P2WFK54O0.net

そんな事は日本にいてもわかるよ

31.名前:名無しさん@涙目です。(大阪府)@\(^o^)/ [US]
投稿日:2017/07/05(水) 11:42:00.59 ID:beeA/RZ00.net

奴隷は考えない

32.名前:名無しさん@涙目です。(チベット自治区)@\(^o^)/ [EU]sage
投稿日:2017/07/05(水) 11:42:14.60 ID:/6gFAncj0.net

日本人が中国をバカにしてた間中国は切磋琢磨して成長してたんだよな
批判することは誰でもできるけど何も生まれないよな

33.名前:名無しさん@涙目です。(東京都)@\(^o^)/ [US]
投稿日:2017/07/05(水) 11:42:16.82 ID:jibq+lWz0.net

>>9
外国でもロイヤリティは優先度上位だよ

34.名前:名無しさん@涙目です。(神奈川県)@\(^o^)/ [US]sage
投稿日:2017/07/05(水) 11:42:26.60 ID:LnPhKuH20.net

奴隷と搾取
これやめろマジで

35.名前:名無しさん@涙目です。(茸)@\(^o^)/ [GB]
投稿日:2017/07/05(水) 11:42:30.66 ID:G5DU9H+H0.net

日本人って奴隷気質だよな

36.名前:名無しさん@涙目です。(埼玉県)@\(^o^)/ [CN]sage
投稿日:2017/07/05(水) 11:42:31.97 ID:BrLGizcG0.net

自分より能力が低いと判断すればって組織運営できないだろ
判断基準が自分って言ってる事分かってるのかね

37.名前:名無しさん@涙目です。(福島県)@\(^o^)/ [US]sage
投稿日:2017/07/05(水) 11:43:06.75 ID:9O9cGKBL0.net

秩序は大事だろw

38.名前:名無しさん@涙目です。(庭)@\(^o^)/ [US]
投稿日:2017/07/05(水) 11:43:37.08 ID:bG22HE+a0.net

社歌を歌う意味は特にないよね

39.名前:名無しさん@涙目です。(茨城県)@\(^o^)/ [US]
投稿日:2017/07/05(水) 11:43:48.62 ID:q5/DXADp0.net

中国企業手掛けたケニアの橋、完成前に崩落 総工費14億円 [無断転載禁止]©2ch.net
http://hayabusa9.2ch.net/test/read.cgi/news/1499139822/

結果のみを重視したらこれだぞ

40.名前:名無しさん@涙目です。(青森県)@\(^o^)/ [US]sage
投稿日:2017/07/05(水) 11:44:02.15 ID:BLfPocyL0.net

文句あるなら日本から出てけとか言われるタイプの人間が
海外でちゃんと幸せになれたんだな

41.名前:名無しさん@涙目です。(庭)@\(^o^)/ [KR]sage
投稿日:2017/07/05(水) 11:44:23.39 ID:0S5/cKWi0.net

中国に拉致された日本人もいるんですよ!!

42.名前:名無しさん@涙目です。(中部地方)@\(^o^)/ [GB]
投稿日:2017/07/05(水) 11:44:44.37 ID:Xg4IHr7A0.net

下水溝油やダンボール肉まんなんて考えつくのは中国人だけ

43.名前:名無しさん@涙目です。(東京都)@\(^o^)/ [PK]
投稿日:2017/07/05(水) 11:45:15.78 ID:+G5QwSJI0.net

労働者の立場からすれば中国の方がいいかもしれないが
サービスを受ける側としては日本の方がいいわ

44.名前:名無しさん@涙目です。(dion軍)@\(^o^)/ [CN]sage
投稿日:2017/07/05(水) 11:45:27.97 ID:9BAl7Z5V0.net

>>中国人は希望の給料を出してもらえなければすぐに別の会社へと移っていくと説明した。
これ逆にいえば金出せばすぐ寝返るって事だよな

45.名前:名無しさん@涙目です。(家)@\(^o^)/ [GB]sage
投稿日:2017/07/05(水) 11:45:32.50 ID:3tC0X+8Y0.net

物事にはメリットデメリットが必ずあって中国式にも良い面があるってだけの話やろ。
日本式に悪い事があるのも当然だけど、良い面もあってどっちがいいかってだけ。
だから日本はダメなんだ!きー!とか言う奴は何も判ってない馬鹿。

46.名前:名無しさん@涙目です。(庭)@\(^o^)/ [NA]
投稿日:2017/07/05(水) 11:45:37.24 ID:4SWE7VY90.net

日本人こそが共産主義にぴったりの人種wwwwww

47.名前:名無しさん@涙目です。(庭)@\(^o^)/ [CA]
投稿日:2017/07/05(水) 11:45:41.51 ID:fJX7zeAW0.net

丁稚奉公とか徒弟制度の延長で成立してるからな

48.名前:名無しさん@涙目です。(庭)@\(^o^)/ [US]sage
投稿日:2017/07/05(水) 11:45:51.79 ID:efMnmZw20.net

>>32
偉大なる毛沢東首席が中国人同士を憎しみ合わせ大勢死なせてくれた
そのおかげで中国は先進国より30年以上遅れた国になった
\(^-^)/毛首席万歳

49.名前:名無しさん@涙目です。(内モンゴル自治区)@\(^o^)/ [ニダ]
投稿日:2017/07/05(水) 11:45:54.01 ID:uYwWPbfDO.net

>>26
じゃあ なんで今 中国に
日本領がないんだ?

50.名前:名無しさん@涙目です。(チベット自治区)@\(^o^)/ [US]
投稿日:2017/07/05(水) 11:46:04.65 ID:/Ivj7iD80.net

どう考えても中国の方が奴隷生活送ってる連中多いだろ
田舎に行ってみろアホみたいに安い給料で働かされてるぞ

51.名前:名無しさん@涙目です。(禿)@\(^o^)/ [EU]
投稿日:2017/07/05(水) 11:46:08.25 ID:FoEQ+r6r0.net

中国も過労死大国になってきてるやんけ

つーか統計の正確さが怪しい中国はおそらくもうとっくに日本を越えてるだろ

こういう奴ってなんで嘘をつくの?

52.名前:名無しさん@涙目です。(内モンゴル自治区)@\(^o^)/ [TW]
投稿日:2017/07/05(水) 11:46:09.55 ID:n1W79rVcO.net

今時、日本でも子どもの誕生日なら帰るだろ
まあ9年前の日本で止まってるんだろうな

53.名前:名無しさん@涙目です。(東京都)@\(^o^)/ [JP]sage
投稿日:2017/07/05(水) 11:47:28.85 ID:DLhdRDor0.net

test

54.名前:名無しさん@涙目です。(庭)@\(^o^)/ [US]sage
投稿日:2017/07/05(水) 11:47:32.62 ID:efMnmZw20.net

>>50
都市部と農村部の差が凄いよな

55.名前:名無しさん@涙目です。(茸)@\(^o^)/ [CN]sage
投稿日:2017/07/05(水) 11:47:44.09 ID:GwpZWxFe0.net

上司がいないと仕事進まんとかないだろ
むしろさっさと帰ってくれた方が良い

56.名前:名無しさん@涙目です。(やわらか銀行)@\(^o^)/ [MA]
投稿日:2017/07/05(水) 11:48:35.09 ID:BprL4mn20.net

>「ごめん、今日は子どもの誕生日だから帰る」と言って帰るのは、日本人にとってみれば極めて無責任な話である
>上司に対する不満を持っていても往々にして黙っているのが日本人で、

どんな職場で働いてたんだろ?
新人でまだ数ヶ月なら別だが、日本も緩いやろ。

57.名前:名無しさん@涙目です。(チベット自治区)@\(^o^)/ [US]
投稿日:2017/07/05(水) 11:48:41.32 ID:/Ivj7iD80.net

中国こそ5000万人の高所得層と13億人の奴隷だろうが

58.名前:名無しさん@涙目です。(庭)@\(^o^)/ [US]sage
投稿日:2017/07/05(水) 11:49:56.16 ID:efMnmZw20.net

>>57
文化大革命の盲従を見てると日本人より中国人の方がヤバイ

59.名前:名無しさん@涙目です。(鹿児島県)@\(^o^)/ [GB]
投稿日:2017/07/05(水) 11:50:09.62 ID:fqRAu3uK0.net

上海だと日本人てだけでカモにされるつーの

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