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ファミ通「任天堂は最近自社でグッズまで内製化して情報発信しすぎ 餅は餅屋って言うだろ」→批判殺到

   

1.名前:名無しさん@涙目です。(庭)@\(^o^)/ [SE]
投稿日:2017/05/17(水) 19:11:33.29 ID:AA0pvq3e0●.net BE:878898748-PLT(16000)

?PLT(16000)


ファミ通こどもメディア編集長の水ピンこと水間勇一さんが自身のツイッターにて任天堂に対して苦言を投じたことにより
ちょっとした批判が集まっている。
その内容は次のようなもの。

——————-
“うーん。周辺グッズまで内製化を加速するのか。こういった情報も自社発信だし、この記事自体も内製。
販社を子会社化したから売るものを増やしたいんだろうけど、最近餅は餅屋の領域に踏み出しすぎだと思うなあ。”
——————-

要するに任天堂がグッズや情報発信まで自社で内製化しており、ゲーム会社がほかの領域に踏み出しすぎと批判。

しかしそのツイートに対して「本気の商品なんだから、自社でやるのは当たり前では?」「自社発信しないと事実を歪曲されますしね」
「特定ハードのみ態々ボケボケの写真を掲載したりするゲーム雑誌の何を信頼しろと?」と批判のリプライが集まっている。

任天堂は数年前から自社で新作ゲームの発表を積極的に行うようになり、動画や生放送での「ニンテンドーダイレクト」では
自社だけでなくサードパーティーのゲームも紹介。

ウェブサイトではもちろんゲームやグッズも紹介している。今回任天堂が販売している内製グッズは
元々ライセンス商品を販売していたメーカー。それが子会社化され任天堂が販売元になった。
もちろん現在も外部でのライセンス販売や許諾は行われている。

まるで任天堂が独占しているかのようなこのツイート。任天堂はゲームだけを作って情報発信するなといわんばかりである。

http://gogotsu.com/archives/29166

2.名前:名無しさん@涙目です。(catv?)@\(^o^)/ [US]
投稿日:2017/05/17(水) 19:12:38.19 ID:+agofC640.net

水ピンって水間勇一という本名だけど、偶然水商売(キャバ)とピンサロが好きだからこのペンネームにしたんだよな。

3.名前:名無しさん@涙目です。(禿)@\(^o^)/ [US]
投稿日:2017/05/17(水) 19:13:21.23 ID:xeEyjOhD0.net

大丈夫?ファミ通の攻略本だよ?

4.名前:名無しさん@涙目です。(福岡県)@\(^o^)/ [ES]
投稿日:2017/05/17(水) 19:13:39.78 ID:+MK03XNp0.net

人が作ったゲームで飯食ってるくせに任天堂に噛み付くって凄いな

5.名前:名無しさん@涙目です。(東京都)@\(^o^)/ [ニダ]sage
投稿日:2017/05/17(水) 19:13:43.79 ID:ZTbcg1tf0.net

まだファミ通買ってる奴ってどんな層だよ?

6.名前:名無しさん@涙目です。(SB-iPhone)@\(^o^)/ [ニダ]sage
投稿日:2017/05/17(水) 19:13:58.40 ID:FjWqsniY0.net

家電屋はゲーム売るなってことよ

7.名前:名無しさん@涙目です。(東京都)@\(^o^)/ [BR]
投稿日:2017/05/17(水) 19:14:11.99 ID:YIr6P+/90.net

>「特定ハードのみ態々ボケボケの写真を掲載したりするゲーム雑誌

なにそれ、そんな陰険な事すんの?

8.名前:名無しさん@涙目です。(埼玉県)@\(^o^)/ [GB]sage
投稿日:2017/05/17(水) 19:14:50.49 ID:/GEwub+P0.net

何でも外注にして楽して食っていこうという会社が多い中
自分で全部やろうというのは偉いじゃん

外注を受けてる奴らは死活問題かもしれないけど

9.名前:名無しさん@涙目です。(新疆ウイグル自治区)@\(^o^)/ [US]
投稿日:2017/05/17(水) 19:15:16.27 ID:ThU4VO4g0.net

まだあったんだ

10.名前:名無しさん@涙目です。(catv?)@\(^o^)/ [MX]
投稿日:2017/05/17(水) 19:15:40.81 ID:IWA7Xbrk0.net

あれ、混乱してきた
こんいつら任天堂から広告出してもらってその上情報も貰ってるんじゃないの?

11.名前:名無しさん@涙目です。(茸)@\(^o^)/ [IT]sage
投稿日:2017/05/17(水) 19:16:09.79 ID:em51QShY0.net

超レアアイテムの正宗は、ランベリー城城内に登場するエルムドアが装備している。
源氏シリーズの防具も、ここでしか見れない。
いずれも盗める確率は0パーセントと表示されるが、このゲームでは小数点以下を切り捨てているため、実際は小数点以下の確率で盗める。
気が遠くなるほど低い確率だがゼロではない。
十分にレベルを上げ、即死や吸血を防ぐアイテム類を完璧に揃え、何度も何度も挑戦すれば盗むことが可能。
盾を壊すことができれば回避率が下がるため、盗める確率が多少上がる。

スポンサーリンク

12.名前:名無しさん@涙目です。(三重県)@\(^o^)/ [JP]sage
投稿日:2017/05/17(水) 19:16:18.01 ID:BSOZq/o30.net

ジョジョやってろ

13.名前:名無しさん@涙目です。(catv?)@\(^o^)/ [ニダ]sage
投稿日:2017/05/17(水) 19:16:28.36 ID:h94Vqt1p0.net

これ偽物対策もあるんじゃねぇかな

14.名前:名無しさん@涙目です。(禿)@\(^o^)/ [US]
投稿日:2017/05/17(水) 19:17:20.07 ID:xeEyjOhD0.net

お前らも任天堂のパクリゲー、ティアリングサーガ出しておいてよくいうよ

15.名前:名無しさん@涙目です。(チベット自治区)@\(^o^)/ [CA]
投稿日:2017/05/17(水) 19:17:31.49 ID:+QyTPNNg0.net

公式アフィ業者

16.名前:名無しさん@涙目です。(庭)@\(^o^)/ [ニダ]
投稿日:2017/05/17(水) 19:18:00.38 ID:TzeTPRSj0.net

ファミ通なんて常識ぶってるだけのキチガイだしな

17.名前:名無しさん@涙目です。(禿)@\(^o^)/ [JP]sage
投稿日:2017/05/17(水) 19:18:19.57 ID:90t/LLks0.net

よそのゲームで飯食ってる奴がなんでこんな偉そうなんだよw

18.名前:名無しさん@涙目です。(東京都)@\(^o^)/ [TH]sage
投稿日:2017/05/17(水) 19:18:32.04 ID:ECkZGotf0.net

餅は餅屋って花札でも売ってろよってことかね
任天堂がどんな会社かすら忘れてるやろ

19.名前:名無しさん@涙目です。(福岡県)@\(^o^)/ [ES]
投稿日:2017/05/17(水) 19:19:18.53 ID:+MK03XNp0.net

要するにファミ通様を通して公表しろって事でしょ

20.名前:名無しさん@涙目です。(茸)@\(^o^)/ [CN]
投稿日:2017/05/17(水) 19:19:39.42 ID:4XTaI/3o0.net

版権もってんだから別にいいだろw自分のとこで納得のいく商品作るんだからいいものが出来上がるだろう。

売れる売れないとは別の問題として。

21.名前:名無しさん@涙目です。(SB-iPhone)@\(^o^)/ [GB]
投稿日:2017/05/17(水) 19:19:59.66 ID:2VJVSf+30.net

>>11
絶対に許さない

22.名前:名無しさん@涙目です。(WiMAX)@\(^o^)/ [BR]sage
投稿日:2017/05/17(水) 19:20:36.53 ID:rx+0+wWr0.net

水野店長と勘違いしてた

23.名前:名無しさん@涙目です。(大阪府)@\(^o^)/ [ニダ]sage
投稿日:2017/05/17(水) 19:20:48.42 ID:W3WxJEsr0.net

言ってる事は真っ当だと思うけど、普段からやってることがアレなんで批判されるんだな

24.名前:名無しさん@涙目です。(カナダ)@\(^o^)/ [CN]
投稿日:2017/05/17(水) 19:21:12.23 ID:P96XJhnA0.net

>>19
これ

25.名前:名無しさん@涙目です。(茸)@\(^o^)/ [US]sage
投稿日:2017/05/17(水) 19:22:02.56 ID:y93EiJ9D0.net

>>11
餅もロクに作れない餅屋ってなんなのって話だよな

26.名前:名無しさん@涙目です。(catv?)@\(^o^)/ [ニダ]
投稿日:2017/05/17(水) 19:22:21.98 ID:jsSzquEa0.net

ファミ通に先に情報よこせって言いたいだけ

27.名前:名無しさん@涙目です。(dion軍)@\(^o^)/ [US]sage
投稿日:2017/05/17(水) 19:22:45.85 ID:kzeaWSq70.net

レビューすらマトモにできないとこに任せられないだろ。
自分達がしてきたこと棚にあげすぎだクソ痛

28.名前:名無しさん@涙目です。(北海道)@\(^o^)/ [US]sage
投稿日:2017/05/17(水) 19:22:50.89 ID:f4gW1Rjs0.net

ジョジョに満点出したお前らが言ってもな

29.名前:名無しさん@涙目です。(京都府)@\(^o^)/ [IN]
投稿日:2017/05/17(水) 19:22:59.85 ID:jFyARqTJ0.net

>>23
全然真っ当じゃないぞ

30.名前:名無しさん@涙目です。(庭)@\(^o^)/ [ニダ]sage
投稿日:2017/05/17(水) 19:23:42.25 ID:AZ8/IrG/0.net

ファミ通とはちまとハニトラ速報刃はソニー派なんだっけ

31.名前:名無しさん@涙目です。(庭)@\(^o^)/ [US]sage
投稿日:2017/05/17(水) 19:24:08.39 ID:yz05vSxx0.net

ニンテンドーダイレクト始めた原因が自分達にあることをご存知ない!?
韓国みてえだなコイツら

32.名前:名無しさん@涙目です。(SB-iPhone)@\(^o^)/ [MX]
投稿日:2017/05/17(水) 19:24:17.91 ID:AZW+uTd/0.net

黒本の恨み

33.名前:名無しさん@涙目です。(カナダ)@\(^o^)/ [CN]
投稿日:2017/05/17(水) 19:24:48.60 ID:P96XJhnA0.net

真・女神転生 公式パーフェクトガイド』正誤表
http://www.enterbrain.co.jp/kouryaku/revised/4-7577-0490-9/4-7577-0490-9q1.html

34.名前:名無しさん@涙目です。(やわらか銀行)@\(^o^)/ [KR]
投稿日:2017/05/17(水) 19:25:45.86 ID:gkbyZftl0.net

任天堂ほんと落ちぶれたけどこの批判はアホだなとしか

35.名前:名無しさん@涙目です。(大阪府)@\(^o^)/ [US]sage
投稿日:2017/05/17(水) 19:25:47.75 ID:jVUgMK8m0.net

だったらお前の所は雑誌だけだしとけって話だしな

36.名前:名無しさん@涙目です。(埼玉県)@\(^o^)/ [US]
投稿日:2017/05/17(水) 19:26:06.70 ID:hWn+QRw/0.net

ファミ通なんて480ガバスとかだろ?

37.名前:名無しさん@涙目です。(茨城県)@\(^o^)/ [US]
投稿日:2017/05/17(水) 19:26:34.41 ID:vw3pdFIh0.net

そもそもこいつらが正確な情報発信しないのが原因じゃん

38.名前:名無しさん@涙目です。(茸)@\(^o^)/ [AU]
投稿日:2017/05/17(水) 19:26:37.05 ID:+j1oZDY20.net

浜村まだ死んでないの?

39.名前:名無しさん@涙目です。(三重県)@\(^o^)/ [US]
投稿日:2017/05/17(水) 19:27:17.98 ID:59k476Tp0.net

ファミマガに言え

40.名前:名無しさん@涙目です。(catv?)@\(^o^)/ [CN]
投稿日:2017/05/17(水) 19:27:46.64 ID:PyWFHaFL0.net

自分の足で稼げよ

41.名前:名無しさん@涙目です。(catv?)@\(^o^)/ [US]sage
投稿日:2017/05/17(水) 19:27:50.00 ID:+snPAuRF0.net

>>8
日本って絶対的に職が人口に対して足りてないから派遣だとか仲卸だとか本来無くても回る所にも人がぶら下がってる
これをいいと取るかしょうがないと取るか

42.名前:名無しさん@涙目です。(カナダ)@\(^o^)/ [CN]
投稿日:2017/05/17(水) 19:27:50.25 ID:P96XJhnA0.net

>>38
角川の取締役

43.名前:名無しさん@涙目です。(兵庫県)@\(^o^)/ [ニダ]sage
投稿日:2017/05/17(水) 19:28:33.54 ID:JNfkAG590.net

まだ読んでる人いんのかこの時代に

44.名前:名無しさん@涙目です。(京都府)@\(^o^)/ [IN]
投稿日:2017/05/17(水) 19:29:02.16 ID:jFyARqTJ0.net

>>33
個人の攻略ブログのがまだ精度高そう
こういうミスは開発元や販売元から文句言われないのかね

45.名前:名無しさん@涙目です。(やわらか銀行)@\(^o^)/ [US]sage
投稿日:2017/05/17(水) 19:29:38.22 ID:KU0onH3O0.net

>>11
大丈夫?ファミ通の攻略本だよ?

46.名前:名無しさん@涙目です。(茸)@\(^o^)/ [DE]sage
投稿日:2017/05/17(水) 19:29:44.97 ID:e/9SSjeX0.net

御意見無用

47.名前:名無しさん@涙目です。(庭)@\(^o^)/ [US]
投稿日:2017/05/17(水) 19:29:54.07 ID:AFUxYfeR0.net

>>31
なんのこっちゃ

48.名前:名無しさん@涙目です。(東京都)@\(^o^)/ [ニダ]sage
投稿日:2017/05/17(水) 19:30:29.87 ID:/syYS4k00.net

オールドメディアは勘違いが激しいな

49.名前:名無しさん@涙目です。(大阪府)@\(^o^)/ [US]sage
投稿日:2017/05/17(水) 19:31:11.88 ID:ZruxLDEf0.net

ファミ通って情報がもう広告カタログみたいで
ファミ通買う金ひかえてゲーム一本買ったほうがマシ

50.名前:名無しさん@涙目です。(茸)@\(^o^)/ [ニダ]sage
投稿日:2017/05/17(水) 19:31:33.04 ID:zAgSK6s/0.net

今時ファミ通に媚びても対して影響力ないんだろうな

51.名前:名無しさん@涙目です。(庭)@\(^o^)/ [US]
投稿日:2017/05/17(水) 19:34:11.49 ID:AFUxYfeR0.net

ファミ通読んでない人って何か勘違いしてるけど、ファミ通の価値は攻略とかゲーム情報の部分じゃないよね

52.名前:名無しさん@涙目です。(神奈川県)@\(^o^)/ [SV]
投稿日:2017/05/17(水) 19:34:40.84 ID:805KzFpQ0.net

今、ゴミ通買ってる奴が情弱だしな

53.名前:名無しさん@涙目です。(富山県)@\(^o^)/ [JP]sage
投稿日:2017/05/17(水) 19:35:33.89 ID:ECkZGotf0.net

どっちも買わないだろ

54.名前:名無しさん@涙目です。(茨城県)@\(^o^)/ [DE]
投稿日:2017/05/17(水) 19:35:54.47 ID:EwEfb0FD0.net

餅もマトモに作れない餅屋がなにいってんだよ

55.名前:名無しさん@涙目です。(滋賀県)@\(^o^)/ [IN]
投稿日:2017/05/17(水) 19:36:17.54 ID:32U6mNRZ0.net

ファミ痛にどれだけ発信力があるってんだよw

56.名前:名無しさん@涙目です。(茸)@\(^o^)/ [ニダ]sage
投稿日:2017/05/17(水) 19:36:43.84 ID:zAgSK6s/0.net

>>51
じゃあガバス?

57.名前:名無しさん@涙目です。(東京都)@\(^o^)/ [US]
投稿日:2017/05/17(水) 19:37:05.95 ID:DPJf39nG0.net

ファミ通ってまだあんのかw
学生の時は良く買ってたけどな。

58.名前:名無しさん@涙目です。(禿)@\(^o^)/ [US]
投稿日:2017/05/17(水) 19:37:28.24 ID:nFYsHfa90.net

でジョジョASBの件はどうなのかね

59.名前:名無しさん@涙目です。(茸)@\(^o^)/ [US]sage
投稿日:2017/05/17(水) 19:37:50.87 ID:f3zdIk9E0.net

ファミ通の黄金時代もはるか昔になっちゃったな…

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