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ソニー『PS4 Pro』で不具合報告続出 ソニーとテレビメーカーで醜い責任のなすり合い状態に

   

1.名前: カーフブランディング(東京都)@\(^o^)/ [ニダ]
投稿日:2016/11/19(土) 22:07:40.88 ID:W90M+zEH0.net BE:875259835-PLT(15000) ポイント特典

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ソニーの「プレイステーション 4 Pro(PS4 Pro)」がいよいよ発売開始となった。
しかし、情報サイトやSNS上では、北米を中心に数多くのユーザーらが不具合を訴え始めている。

PSVRがHDRのパススルーに非対応であることもユーザーの不満の元となっていたが、今回新たに判明したのは
画面が暗転する問題だ。この不具合は、LG、サムスン、ソニー、フィリップス、
Vizioなど様々なメーカーのテレビやAVレシーバー、サウンドバーで発生している。

PS4 Proがリリースされた11月10日には、EU版のプレイステーション公式フォーラム上でソニーの
サポート担当者がトラブルの存在を認めた上で対処法についてコメントをした。それによると、
PS4 Proをセーフモードに設定し、著作権保護機能を「HDCP 2.2」から「HDCP 1.4」に切り替えると問題が解消するという。

しかし、ソニー自身が「HDCP 1.4に切り替えることで、アプリによっては4KとHDRの映像を楽しむことができなくなる」
としており、この対処法はあくまで一時しのぎに過ぎない。ソニーの担当者は、プレイステーションフォーラム上で
今回の不具合の原因はテレビ側にあり、テレビメーカーに相談するように呼び掛けている。
しかし、実際にテレビメーカーに問い合わせたユーザーの多くは、真逆のことを言われたという。

筆者は、あるユーザーがLGのカスタマーサポートに問い合わせたチャットのスクリーンショットを見たが、
その中でLGの担当者は次のように述べている。

「PS4 Proに関しては設定上の不具合が生じており、現在ソニーと問題の解決に向けて協議を行っています。
以前、Xbox One Sで同様の不具合が発生したときには、マイクロソフトが機器のアップデートを行いました」。

要するに、ソニーとテレビメーカーがお互いに責任をなすりつけ合っているのが今の状況だ。
現段階ではどちらの責任であるかは不明だが、原因はHDCP 2.2の不具合と、PS4 Proが
4K/HDR対応テレビであることを正しく検知できていないことにあると思われる。

Xbox One Sで不具合が生じた際にはマイクロソフトが対応に当たったように、
今回のPS4 Proの問題でも恐らくソニーがファームウェアをアップデートする必要があるだろう。
http://forbesjapan.com/articles/detail/14276/1/1/1

2.名前: ファイナルカット(和歌山県)@\(^o^)/ [EU]sage
投稿日:2016/11/19(土) 22:08:25.58 ID:bx9uSDi10.net

朝鮮メーカーが悪い

3.名前: フォーク攻撃(庭)@\(^o^)/ [US]
投稿日:2016/11/19(土) 22:09:16.04 ID:m0q/YbCA0.net

やっぱり著作権保護関係か

4.名前: 雪崩式ブレーンバスター(庭)@\(^o^)/ [RU]
投稿日:2016/11/19(土) 22:12:35.79 ID:NFCR9c9w0.net

まあ、海外はフィリップスつかってたり朝鮮テレビ使ってるの多いしな

5.名前: ストマッククロー(神奈川県)@\(^o^)/ [ES]sage
投稿日:2016/11/19(土) 22:12:43.82 ID:HMppUh+M0.net

いや自分んとこのテレビでも発生してるじゃんw

6.名前: エルボードロップ(SB-iPhone)@\(^o^)/ [US]
投稿日:2016/11/19(土) 22:15:45.05 ID:Meo5q6Ri0.net

初版は買うべきだな

7.名前: ダブルニードロップ(庭)@\(^o^)/ [US]sage
投稿日:2016/11/19(土) 22:16:34.77 ID:ejRnozm+0.net

まプ売

8.名前: エクスプロイダー(徳島県)@\(^o^)/ [ニダ]
投稿日:2016/11/19(土) 22:17:35.04 ID:qeT8jGTb0.net

HDR?カシオのデジカメか

9.名前: デンジャラスバックドロップ(神奈川県)@\(^o^)/ [SA]sage
投稿日:2016/11/19(土) 22:19:05.87 ID:5OLY1ohf0.net

自社のテレビでも出てるとか、品質管理はどうなってるのかね?

10.名前: 32文ロケット砲(茸)@\(^o^)/ [BR]
投稿日:2016/11/19(土) 22:19:50.23 ID:SR5TdzNd0.net

これ4Kで遊ぶのに全然スペック足りないみたいよ
なんか中途半端なもの作ったな

11.名前: オリンピック予選スラム(埼玉県)@\(^o^)/ [US]sage
投稿日:2016/11/19(土) 22:20:56.42 ID:MRyMLOgv0.net

>>9
ホンマやねw
爆発スマホを笑えないレベル

スポンサーリンク

12.名前: フライングニールキック(dion軍)@\(^o^)/ [AZ]
投稿日:2016/11/19(土) 22:21:37.94 ID:MXt0PTea0.net

あかんやんこれ

13.名前: メンマ(東京都)@\(^o^)/ [RO]sage
投稿日:2016/11/19(土) 22:21:40.25 ID:Z0zN5i/A0.net

Pro2まだかね

14.名前: レッドインク(新疆ウイグル自治区)@\(^o^)/ [MX]sage
投稿日:2016/11/19(土) 22:23:00.52 ID:jgmjpSP70.net

Proって何のプロなん?金儲けに使えるの?

15.名前: バックドロップホールド(茸)@\(^o^)/ [US]
投稿日:2016/11/19(土) 22:25:15.78 ID:TiTh3fKS0.net

>>14
プロのつもりの馬鹿を釣るためのハッタリネーム

16.名前: ハーフネルソンスープレックス(東京都)@\(^o^)/ [JP]
投稿日:2016/11/19(土) 22:25:58.26 ID:WXPyq6GY0.net

ファームアップで直るだろ

17.名前: ボ ラギノール(福岡県)@\(^o^)/ [CN]sage
投稿日:2016/11/19(土) 22:26:24.57 ID:t232ES120.net

これはps4ノーマルで十分だったのかな

18.名前: ストマッククロー(チベット自治区)@\(^o^)/ [BR]sage
投稿日:2016/11/19(土) 22:26:46.46 ID:tzEKABED0.net

テレビに接続してテストしなかったのかソニーの開発陣はw

19.名前: ボ ラギノール(茸)@\(^o^)/ [JP]
投稿日:2016/11/19(土) 22:26:55.14 ID:pNDUeMOC0.net

PS4との性能バランスを維持するために買う必要がないほど無意味な性能向上になったクソハード
PS4があるかぎりいらんこ

20.名前: タイガードライバー(岩手県)@\(^o^)/ [US]
投稿日:2016/11/19(土) 22:27:46.10 ID:sGJ8y9D20.net

昨日、不具合どころかぶっ壊れたぞ。
発売日にPro買って一週間後に買ったVR繋げたらホームでフリーズして勝手に電源切れた。
再度電源点けたら「本体ストレージ~~」の画面が出て0%のままうんともすんとも言わず。
セーフモードからなんとか初期化してホームに戻るも今度はアプデ強要されダウンロードしたら
インストール画面で固まって「SU-30627-8」のエラーコード。
そのエラーコードをググっても海外のサイトしか出てこねーしソニーのホームページにすら載ってねーし。
俺のほかにも犠牲者がいるかとゲハの総合スレ覗きに行っても誰も話題にしてねーし。

そんなこんなで今日病院送りにしたわ。
せっかくFF15の為に買ったのに発売日にできそうにない糞が。

21.名前: シャイニングウィザード(茸)@\(^o^)/ [US]
投稿日:2016/11/19(土) 22:29:01.37 ID:RG77Mpok0.net

>>18
最大手のLGのテレビが駄目なら、どこのテレビもテストしてないんだろうな
たぶんソニーとかいう雑魚メーカーのテレビ使ってたんだろ

22.名前: パイルドライバー(茸)@\(^o^)/ [IL]
投稿日:2016/11/19(土) 22:30:14.12 ID:HvUsMjBF0.net

PSVRの為のハードとしか言いようがない
でもPSVRも化けの皮剥がれたし高いだけのうんこ三段ね(´・ω・`)

23.名前: ニーリフト(千葉県)@\(^o^)/ [NL]
投稿日:2016/11/19(土) 22:31:19.72 ID:GOnkQ4lU0.net

どっちも高機能かというか複雑化してきて具合が悪くなってきてるな

24.名前: メンマ(東京都)@\(^o^)/ [RO]sage
投稿日:2016/11/19(土) 22:31:33.79 ID:Z0zN5i/A0.net

>>21
この不具合は、LG、サムスン、『ソニー』

テストしてないが正解だね

25.名前: 断崖式ニードロップ(家)@\(^o^)/ [US]sage
投稿日:2016/11/19(土) 22:32:09.20 ID:tH/OV9mL0.net

>>20
大丈夫。FF15もクソだから被害は思いのほか少ない

26.名前: ニールキック(catv?)@\(^o^)/ [US]sage
投稿日:2016/11/19(土) 22:32:36.85 ID:aqWeyKeO0.net

>>1
> 。この不具合は、LG、サムスン、ソニー、フィリップス、Vizioなど様々なメーカーの
テレビやAVレシーバー、サウンドバーで発生している。

何で自分とこのTVで不具合出してるんだよw

27.名前: ファイヤーバードスプラッシュ(家)@\(^o^)/ [US]sage
投稿日:2016/11/19(土) 22:33:09.30 ID:oJ5EZm+g0.net

>>18
とごのメーカーも今はそんな金ないよ

28.名前: 中年’sリフト(SB-iPhone)@\(^o^)/ [ニダ]
投稿日:2016/11/19(土) 22:34:12.03 ID:Pt41uWgZ0.net

ソニー製のTVですら不具合出んのかよwwww

29.名前: リバースパワースラム(富山県)@\(^o^)/ [US]
投稿日:2016/11/19(土) 22:37:30.64 ID:JKstuseQ0.net

これ2世代目から使えるようになる感じか
まあ後出しでプロ()とか出てくるような舐め腐ったものなど買わんけどな

30.名前: トペ コンヒーロ(神奈川県)@\(^o^)/ [US]sage
投稿日:2016/11/19(土) 22:41:23.16 ID:c1u9VFH40.net

後発品(PS4Pro)の仕様のために先行品(テレビ)に対応させようとするとかソニー狂ってんのか?

31.名前: ボ ラギノール(神奈川県)@\(^o^)/ [ニダ]
投稿日:2016/11/19(土) 22:42:33.37 ID:Mpl4pJlL0.net

HDMIもそうだけど規格が権利屋どものほうを向いて消費者を蔑ろにしている
金出しているやつを愚弄しすぎ

32.名前: ボ ラギノール(京都府)@\(^o^)/ [JP]
投稿日:2016/11/19(土) 22:42:47.62 ID:t6oAG5vF0.net

いつもの事。人柱お疲れ

33.名前: スリーパーホールド(愛知県)@\(^o^)/ [CN]sage
投稿日:2016/11/19(土) 22:43:58.20 ID:wnwzxxH30.net

ソニー製品なんか買うヤツがバカだろ

34.名前: 目潰し(新疆ウイグル自治区)@\(^o^)/ [CH]sage
投稿日:2016/11/19(土) 22:47:13.11 ID:zN45GZHY0.net

外資比率高いし日本の企業とは思いたくないな

35.名前: 閃光妖術(関東・甲信越)@\(^o^)/ [US]
投稿日:2016/11/19(土) 22:47:19.59 ID:Qv+SsOI2O.net

>>1
また信仰心を試されてるのか

36.名前: 足4の字固め(やわらか銀行)@\(^o^)/ [ID]
投稿日:2016/11/19(土) 22:48:05.82 ID:M44fc4ZD0.net

>>22
PSVRにつないじゃうとHDR対応ゲームがHDR表示されなくなるからいちいちPSVR外さないといけない
構成がすげーチグハグで多分PS4 PS4pro PSVR モニター全部の開発が全然コミュニケーションとってないんだと思う

37.名前: 超竜ボム(dion軍)@\(^o^)/ [US]
投稿日:2016/11/19(土) 22:50:00.43 ID:iTgh4ZgC0.net

>この不具合は、LG、サムスン、ソニー、フィリップス、Vizioなど
>様々なメーカーのテレビやAVレシーバー、サウンドバーで発生している。

正直、他社製品はともかく部署や会社は別でも自社ブランド製品はなんとかしろよ・・・

38.名前: アイアンフィンガーフロムヘル(四国地方)@\(^o^)/ [US]sage
投稿日:2016/11/19(土) 22:51:15.68 ID:YYAErD4W0.net

次のモデルに期待

39.名前: フロントネックロック(SB-iPhone)@\(^o^)/ [ニダ]
投稿日:2016/11/19(土) 22:51:56.05 ID:aX/ZJ1gB0.net

また大便民国のドッチョンコがソニーに迷惑かけてるのか

40.名前: ミラノ作 どどんスズスロウン(catv?)@\(^o^)/ [US]sage
投稿日:2016/11/19(土) 22:54:06.01 ID:YyG919yL0.net

コンシューマ機でスペック違いのモデルを発売するのは悪手だと思うんだがなぁ

41.名前: ジャーマンスープレックス(愛知県)@\(^o^)/ [ニダ]sage
投稿日:2016/11/19(土) 22:54:30.34 ID:bUZWYtWU0.net

ソニーのテレビを使わないのが悪いのでは?

42.名前: チキンウィングフェースロック(カナダ)@\(^o^)/ [ニダ]sage
投稿日:2016/11/19(土) 22:54:58.56 ID:zcgPfXly0.net

プロでもつかいこなせないのか…

43.名前: TEKKAMAKI(茸)@\(^o^)/ [ニダ]
投稿日:2016/11/19(土) 22:55:21.74 ID:4BMxMXbl0.net

アプデをするとそのままレンガになる珍天堂wiiuよりはマシだよ任豚ちゃんw

44.名前: キドクラッチ(新疆ウイグル自治区)@\(^o^)/ [TH]sage
投稿日:2016/11/19(土) 22:56:25.96 ID:33JamMXj0.net

もうちょっとテストしてから製品出せよ

45.名前: ランサルセ(catv?)@\(^o^)/ [PH]
投稿日:2016/11/19(土) 22:56:52.91 ID:cm/Mrjps0.net

ほんとクソニーはクソだな

46.名前: リバースパワースラム(catv?)@\(^o^)/ [ニダ]sage
投稿日:2016/11/19(土) 22:57:00.29 ID:cI3gm5XU0.net

つか完全にproは欠陥商品だと思う

47.名前: メンマ(東京都)@\(^o^)/ [RO]sage
投稿日:2016/11/19(土) 22:57:34.68 ID:Z0zN5i/A0.net

PS部門 「接続テストしたいので機器貸出お願いします」
TV部門 「そちらの経費で購入してください」

48.名前: ダブルニードロップ(東日本)@\(^o^)/ [ヌコ]sage
投稿日:2016/11/19(土) 22:58:37.22 ID:7m9B9o9/0.net

ゲームを出せよ
VRだのproだのハードばっかり力入れてどうする

49.名前: エルボードロップ(チベット自治区)@\(^o^)/ [ニダ]sage
投稿日:2016/11/19(土) 22:59:42.25 ID:vxmVQEjk0.net

後から出したほうが既存の機器での動作チェックをするのが普通だろ
マイナーな機種だけならともかく、こんな多数で動かんとか論外だろ

50.名前: 16文キック(dion軍)@\(^o^)/ [US]sage
投稿日:2016/11/19(土) 23:01:32.96 ID:W9dlp+OP0.net

テメーとこのティビーでも不具合ある癖に、人様のせいにするソニーーw

51.名前: ドラゴンスリーパー(チベット自治区)@\(^o^)/ [CN]
投稿日:2016/11/19(土) 23:04:14.71 ID:ahHtA4DM0.net

返品だ返品!

52.名前: ムーンサルトプレス(WiMAX)@\(^o^)/ [US]
投稿日:2016/11/19(土) 23:08:18.06 ID:fC18/cSt0.net

またソニーは、バカげた著作権保護機能のせいで
自滅していくのか

MDもそれで失敗、シリコンプレイヤーも、MP3が再生できる
iPadに駆逐されたのに

53.名前: 雪崩式ブレーンバスター(栃木県)@\(^o^)/ [US]
投稿日:2016/11/19(土) 23:10:22.49 ID:3/k+ELIC0.net

どう考えてもテレビ側のHDCP 2.2実装ミスですな

54.名前: ラダームーンサルト(大阪府)@\(^o^)/ [AU]
投稿日:2016/11/19(土) 23:11:17.70 ID:tcYgL1D20.net

いやもうこれ全数リコールしろよ
物売るってレベルじゃねえよ

55.名前: メンマ(dion軍)@\(^o^)/ [US]sage
投稿日:2016/11/19(土) 23:11:35.80 ID:QA1RSSZL0.net

これだから安物買いはw

56.名前: エメラルドフロウジョン(秋田県)@\(^o^)/ [SE]
投稿日:2016/11/19(土) 23:11:47.21 ID:m4hxbA9m0.net

以前、Xbox One Sで同様の不具合が発生したとき

割りとおおいんだな

57.名前: ニールキック(dion軍)@\(^o^)/ [ニダ]sage
投稿日:2016/11/19(土) 23:12:08.87 ID:233vydVI0.net

物売るっていうレベルじゃねぇぞ!

58.名前: スパイダージャーマン(庭)@\(^o^)/ [US]
投稿日:2016/11/19(土) 23:12:59.90 ID:Zmg1jE0/0.net

>>20
FF15買う前で被害が拡大しなくてよかったな
いろんな意味でwww

59.名前: 男色ドライバー(北海道)@\(^o^)/ [NO]
投稿日:2016/11/19(土) 23:13:47.13 ID:7JljcIVI0.net

権利保護のための無駄な労力にはほんとうんざり
PS4は持ってないけどhdmi接続のwidiディスプレイ端末がpanaのテレビで使えなかった

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