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スマホの母艦としてパソコンが必要なんじゃないの?

   

1.名前:名無しさん@涙目です。(秋田県)@\(^o^)/ [DE]sage
投稿日:2017/05/17(水) 15:35:38.68 ID:V7ldv6rn0●.net BE:194767121-PLT(13001)

?PLT(13001)


「スマホがあれば十分」はホント?

当記事は夜間飛行が運営する「プレタポルテ」の提供記事です。
曰く「スマホで十分なのを知らんのか」「パソコン勧めてくるのは老害」「パソコンなんてキモオタしか使わん」云々。

http://toyokeizai.net/articles/-/168113

2.名前:名無しさん@涙目です。(東京都)@\(^o^)/ [US]sage
投稿日:2017/05/17(水) 15:36:51.32 ID:oFLDmlcB0.net

母艦て

3.名前:名無しさん@涙目です。(東日本)@\(^o^)/ [US]sage
投稿日:2017/05/17(水) 15:37:01.95 ID:iojGTZtD0.net

母艦って考え方もクラウドに移行するんじゃないのかね

4.名前:名無しさん@涙目です。(庭)@\(^o^)/ [JP]
投稿日:2017/05/17(水) 15:37:39.53 ID:4MMKFvmM0.net

タブレットは母艦にならない?

5.名前:名無しさん@涙目です。(茸)@\(^o^)/ [KR]sage
投稿日:2017/05/17(水) 15:37:40.73 ID:0bV81zvc0.net

ただのビューワとしてだけならスマホで十分だけど、回線は欲しいかもね
開発創作は当然無理

6.名前:名無しさん@涙目です。(大阪府)@\(^o^)/ [RU]
投稿日:2017/05/17(水) 15:38:06.68 ID:58gsrG7b0.net

母艦!
ぐんくつ!!!!!!

7.名前:名無しさん@涙目です。(神奈川県)@\(^o^)/ [KR]
投稿日:2017/05/17(水) 15:38:10.50 ID:r8PmQRPM0.net

昔ルート権限取得するのにPCに繋いだことあるな

8.名前:名無しさん@涙目です。(東日本)@\(^o^)/ [US]sage
投稿日:2017/05/17(水) 15:39:11.60 ID:iojGTZtD0.net

ハイスペックなゲームやったり音楽とかイラストとか動画作る人にはPC必須だろうけど
コンテンツを消費するだけの人はスマホかタブレットで十分なんじゃないの?

9.名前:名無しさん@涙目です。(沖縄県)@\(^o^)/ [TR]sage
投稿日:2017/05/17(水) 15:39:58.10 ID:xiiTJbEJ0.net

スマホで一流と勝負できるのって作家ぐらいじゃないか?

10.名前:名無しさん@涙目です。(catv?)@\(^o^)/ [ニダ]sage
投稿日:2017/05/17(水) 15:41:49.88 ID:h94Vqt1p0.net

スマホでなんでもできるなんて言ってる子は
多分何にもできない子だよ

11.名前:名無しさん@涙目です。(庭)@\(^o^)/ [US]sage
投稿日:2017/05/17(水) 15:41:55.65 ID:RwlrKMV00.net

タイム母艦

スポンサーリンク

12.名前:名無しさん@涙目です。(やわらか銀行)@\(^o^)/ [ニダ]sage
投稿日:2017/05/17(水) 15:42:36.98 ID:hZznd0ag0.net

スマホで満足してる人はその程度の使い方しかしてない
という事に尽きるな
あれでは容量不足だったり挙動が足りないという人がPCつかうわけで 

13.名前:名無しさん@涙目です。(新潟県)@\(^o^)/ [US]sage
投稿日:2017/05/17(水) 15:43:14.57 ID:bizBMVf/0.net

itunesなくてもクラウドでバックアップできるし

14.名前:名無しさん@涙目です。(東京都)@\(^o^)/ [US]
投稿日:2017/05/17(水) 15:43:43.84 ID:WhPmJzL+0.net

>>3
それただのストレージじゃね?

15.名前:名無しさん@涙目です。(やわらか銀行)@\(^o^)/ [US]
投稿日:2017/05/17(水) 15:45:55.26 ID:5wwzy6gT0.net

DTMと映画観るときとOfficeくらいだなPC使うの
DTM界隈もアプリが充実してきてほぼスマホだけで完結するようになってるしOfficeも文字入力にBluetoothキーボード使えばそんなに変わらんな。
動画編集、絵、プログラミングもまともに出来るようになってきてるし、5年もしないうちにPCでしか出来ないことなんてほとんどなくなると思うよ

16.名前:名無しさん@涙目です。(大阪府)@\(^o^)/ [ヌコ]age
投稿日:2017/05/17(水) 15:46:41.56 ID:4Vcuw1sn0.net

デスクトップパソコンは戦艦
ノートパソコンは重巡洋艦
タブレットは軽巡洋艦
スマートフォンは駆逐艦
NASは空母
ルーターは前線の航空基地

17.名前:名無しさん@涙目です。(新疆ウイグル自治区)@\(^o^)/ [US]
投稿日:2017/05/17(水) 15:46:48.90 ID:3TZUC32S0.net

>>15
調べものはPCが一番だわ

18.名前:名無しさん@涙目です。(東日本)@\(^o^)/ [US]sage
投稿日:2017/05/17(水) 15:47:20.12 ID:iojGTZtD0.net

>>16
日本では全部護衛艦でお願いします

19.名前:名無しさん@涙目です。(東京都)@\(^o^)/ [ニダ]sage
投稿日:2017/05/17(水) 15:47:26.83 ID:3ZH7zDcy0.net

自己満足ばかりして想像力がないというのはわかる

20.名前:名無しさん@涙目です。(庭)@\(^o^)/ [US]sage
投稿日:2017/05/17(水) 15:47:34.77 ID:kCPgli/P0.net

( ・◇・)?ボカーン

21.名前:名無しさん@涙目です。(茸)@\(^o^)/ [NL]
投稿日:2017/05/17(水) 15:48:06.70 ID:1ub4nvLR0.net

ごく一般的な、持ってなくても問題ないような使い方だと母艦は必要ない
変態的な使い方除くと着信音自分で作って入れたりするようなときくらいだろ

22.名前:名無しさん@涙目です。(東京都)@\(^o^)/ [US]sage
投稿日:2017/05/17(水) 15:48:26.89 ID:oFLDmlcB0.net

>>15
専用ツールがある限り仕事だけはどうにもならんなあ

23.名前:名無しさん@涙目です。(やわらか銀行)@\(^o^)/ [US]
投稿日:2017/05/17(水) 15:49:33.27 ID:5wwzy6gT0.net

>>17
あー確かに旅行行く前のホテルや交通の比較、予約なんかは俺もPCじゃないと出来んわ
でもスマホならともかくタブレットくらいのサイズあれば、比較アプリなんかも多くなってきてるしあとは慣れの問題ってレベルまで来つつあると思う

24.名前:名無しさん@涙目です。(dion軍)@\(^o^)/ [CN]
投稿日:2017/05/17(水) 15:49:47.49 ID:lu1UtBFz0.net

スマホは首が痛くなる
情報量が少なすぎ

25.名前:名無しさん@涙目です。(庭)@\(^o^)/ [ニダ]
投稿日:2017/05/17(水) 15:51:45.67 ID:pOV/JvMu0.net

昔のapple製品は確かにそうだったけどiCloud導入以降は必要無いな
バックアップくらいかな

26.名前:名無しさん@涙目です。(愛媛県)@\(^o^)/ [ニダ]
投稿日:2017/05/17(水) 15:52:02.33 ID:Ghg5IBEd0.net

スマホが完全なシンクライアントとなることで、初めてクラウド化は成功したと言える

27.名前:名無しさん@涙目です。(庭)@\(^o^)/ [US]sage
投稿日:2017/05/17(水) 15:52:20.53 ID:WMszrv390.net

イラストレーターやフォトショップがPCより捗るスマホってあるの?

28.名前:名無しさん@涙目です。(兵庫県)@\(^o^)/ [CN]
投稿日:2017/05/17(水) 15:53:48.22 ID:eensKSVg0.net

>>15
>>動画編集、絵、プログラミングもまともに出来るようになってきてるし

まったく説得力ねーなこいつw 絶対どれもやってねーわ
スマホのアーキテクチャがPCと同等だから可能性としては幾らでも言えるんだよ
あの画面の小ささとしょぼい処理性能でちまちまやってられるかという話だろwww

29.名前:名無しさん@涙目です。(神奈川県)@\(^o^)/ [MX]
投稿日:2017/05/17(水) 15:53:54.78 ID:G3wIx0og0.net

固定設置スペースが確保できるならPCの使い勝手が圧倒的だろ
そうはいかない場面が多々あるからスマホ優勢なわけで

30.名前:名無しさん@涙目です。(dion軍)@\(^o^)/ [GB]sage
投稿日:2017/05/17(水) 15:54:22.31 ID:MzhJUyvL0.net

クラウドはアメリカで何かあった時にデータ全部持ってかれる可能性があるからヤダ

31.名前:名無しさん@涙目です。(空)@\(^o^)/ [ニダ]
投稿日:2017/05/17(水) 15:55:27.35 ID:iSI6azsn0.net

スマホはとにかく情報量が少ない

32.名前:名無しさん@涙目です。(新潟県)@\(^o^)/ [ニダ]
投稿日:2017/05/17(水) 15:55:44.81 ID:eue59iq40.net

データの保管だけならクラウドでいいけど
加工したり編集したり切ったり貼ったり繋げたり
そういうのアプリでやるのは大変

33.名前:名無しさん@涙目です。(岩手県)@\(^o^)/ [KR]
投稿日:2017/05/17(水) 15:56:10.69 ID:tg5vJP+C0.net

スマホ=シャワー
パソコン=バスタブ

水道通ってて浴室あるのにシャワーだけあれば十分だと言い張りバスタブ置かない奴は頭おかしいと思う

34.名前:名無しさん@涙目です。(香川県)@\(^o^)/ [US]
投稿日:2017/05/17(水) 15:56:28.93 ID:Oo+FfOTO0.net

そもそも電話で何もできんやん

35.名前:名無しさん@涙目です。(やわらか銀行)@\(^o^)/ [NO]
投稿日:2017/05/17(水) 15:56:47.11 ID:dJUUCc8p0.net

データ入力する速度が全然違う

36.名前:名無しさん@涙目です。(茸)@\(^o^)/ [US]sage
投稿日:2017/05/17(水) 15:57:13.54 ID:Oo5EiqxS0.net

論文書いたりする時は、やっぱキーボードの方が打ち込み速いし、プレゼン用のパワポ作る時もパソコンは必要じゃね?

37.名前:名無しさん@涙目です。(やわらか銀行)@\(^o^)/ [US]
投稿日:2017/05/17(水) 15:58:18.81 ID:5wwzy6gT0.net

>>28
俺はやってないけど仕事で使ってる知り合い普通にいるし増えてきてるよ
画面の小ささは慣れっつうか適応力の問題だし処理性能は十分上がって来てるわ
可能性ならいくらでも言えるって、別に俺もする/しないじゃなくて出来る/出来ないの話しかしてないけど

38.名前:名無しさん@涙目です。(東日本)@\(^o^)/ [US]sage
投稿日:2017/05/17(水) 15:58:33.52 ID:iojGTZtD0.net

>>27
そういうソフトを使わない人がスマホだけですませているのでは?

39.名前:名無しさん@涙目です。(禿)@\(^o^)/ [ニダ]sage
投稿日:2017/05/17(水) 15:58:38.84 ID:9XmdjgtF0.net

むかーしiPodが欲しかった頃、そんなこと思ってたかも
母艦にPC必要じゃんって

40.名前:名無しさん@涙目です。(やわらか銀行)@\(^o^)/ [JP]
投稿日:2017/05/17(水) 15:59:07.10 ID:Qo6NPFAG0.net

iPhone勢はiTunesがないと不便なので母艦に縛られとります
Appleは商売上手ですな

41.名前:名無しさん@涙目です。(公衆電話)@\(^o^)/ [ニダ]
投稿日:2017/05/17(水) 15:59:54.36 ID:I9h9pB0K0.net

>>33
俺としてはこれが一番しっくりくる

42.名前:名無しさん@涙目です。(兵庫県)@\(^o^)/ [CN]
投稿日:2017/05/17(水) 16:00:08.16 ID:eensKSVg0.net

>>37
>>画面の小ささは慣れっつうか適応力の問題だし

もうニワカすぎて失笑だわ
せめてスマホをモニタに接続するのと、接続時にモニタ用にUI変換する技術(CONTINUUMやサムスンの最新スマホなど)に言及しないとおかしいだろ

43.名前:名無しさん@涙目です。(東日本)@\(^o^)/ [US]sage
投稿日:2017/05/17(水) 16:00:59.71 ID:iojGTZtD0.net

PCが必須な人→コンテンツを作る必要のある人
PCが必要じゃない人→コンテンツを消費するだけの人

後者の方が遥かに多いのは当たり前

44.名前:名無しさん@涙目です。(千葉県)@\(^o^)/ [US]sage
投稿日:2017/05/17(水) 16:03:53.25 ID:mFpyoIRl0.net

>>3
ちょっと何言ってるのか分らない

45.名前:名無しさん@涙目です。(空)@\(^o^)/ [US]sage
投稿日:2017/05/17(水) 16:04:22.51 ID:aNZDW/yR0.net

長らく繋いだことないなぁ。バックアップはiCloudだし、音楽もめっきり聞かなくなったし。母艦にPCってのがもう古臭いことに気付いた方がいい。

46.名前:名無しさん@涙目です。(やわらか銀行)@\(^o^)/ [US]sage
投稿日:2017/05/17(水) 16:05:17.94 ID:2PNLTKxG0.net

俺だわパソコンが親でスマホ、タブレットが子みたいなもんやな

47.名前:名無しさん@涙目です。(芋)@\(^o^)/ [US]
投稿日:2017/05/17(水) 16:05:47.48 ID:0x2lBWru0.net

パソコン使えないからスマポに逃げてるだけ。

48.名前:名無しさん@涙目です。(SB-iPhone)@\(^o^)/ [CA]
投稿日:2017/05/17(水) 16:05:47.14 ID:W0+pRGjF0.net

>>43
PCが必要な人でもゲームするだけとか、動画を圧縮するだけとか、音楽を整理するだけとか、
そういう消費するだけの人間が殆どでしょ

49.名前:名無しさん@涙目です。(やわらか銀行)@\(^o^)/ [US]
投稿日:2017/05/17(水) 16:06:46.55 ID:5wwzy6gT0.net

>>42
なんのニワカなんだよw
画面が小さいっていうから慣れの問題じゃんって言っただけで小さいことへの解決策を求められたわけじゃないから言及しないとおかしいもクソもないだろ
他のことについての反論は出来なかったの?

50.名前:名無しさん@涙目です。(やわらか銀行)@\(^o^)/ [IL]sage
投稿日:2017/05/17(水) 16:06:53.16 ID:DhwwxDmy0.net

スマホでプログラミングなんかやったらスマホぶち壊したくなる

51.名前:名無しさん@涙目です。(東京都)@\(^o^)/ [ニダ]
投稿日:2017/05/17(水) 16:08:43.88 ID:Z7Q/Q8YC0.net

動画の編集とエンコがスマホでできるようになったらPCをやめる

52.名前:名無しさん@涙目です。(大阪府)@\(^o^)/ [US]sage
投稿日:2017/05/17(水) 16:08:51.08 ID:oJitECAn0.net

>>4
同等のスペックじゃー母艦になりえない。。

53.名前:名無しさん@涙目です。(東京都)@\(^o^)/ [US]sage
投稿日:2017/05/17(水) 16:10:08.09 ID:0N/iJw030.net

>>51
10年は無さそう

54.名前:名無しさん@涙目です。(北海道)@\(^o^)/ [DE]sage
投稿日:2017/05/17(水) 16:10:26.21 ID:W0T0gRIl0.net

ノートやデスクトップPC無い家てどんな家庭だよw
家にいるときPCあると仕事もプラベも色々捗るだろ

55.名前:名無しさん@涙目です。(チベット自治区)@\(^o^)/ [CN]
投稿日:2017/05/17(水) 16:10:52.30 ID:0B5kVfFm0.net

テレビとマウスとキーボにつなげられてPCの代替が効くならPCいらんけど
でもスマホで高スペックってもセロリンより劣るんだろ?

56.名前:名無しさん@涙目です。(茸)@\(^o^)/ [FJ]
投稿日:2017/05/17(水) 16:11:19.88 ID:hMlPyj7f0.net

スマホだけでいい人間=使われる上取替がきく人間だと思うわ

57.名前:名無しさん@涙目です。(やわらか銀行)@\(^o^)/ [US]
投稿日:2017/05/17(水) 16:11:38.59 ID:5wwzy6gT0.net

あと画面サイズとか入力について文句言ってる奴多いけど、入出力はPCかスマホかには関係なく外付けでもどうにでも変わるし機種によっても全然違う
電話かどうかで名称分けてるだけで、スマホもPCも本質的には何も変わらないのを理解できないバカばっかりだな

58.名前:名無しさん@涙目です。(芋)@\(^o^)/ [US]
投稿日:2017/05/17(水) 16:13:28.73 ID:0x2lBWru0.net

りんご教団に踊らされてどうするの?

59.名前:名無しさん@涙目です。(東京都)@\(^o^)/ [US]sage
投稿日:2017/05/17(水) 16:13:33.26 ID:WhMny0Xl0.net

>>51
さらにその動画をBDかDVDに焼けるようになったらだなw

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