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【速報】安倍総理、水素燃料電池に補助金1兆円を出せと経産省に指示

   

1.名前: ボ ラギノール(北海道)@\(^o^)/
投稿日:2016/04/24(日) 17:39:32.24 ID:VyYip6zG0

?2BP(1515)

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経済産業省は、昨年秋の官民対話での「エネルギー・環境制約を新たな投資につなげる」との総理指示を踏まえて「エネルギー革新戦略」を策定した。

戦略の実行で、2030年度には、省エネや再エネなどのエネルギー関連投資28兆円で、このうち水素関連が1兆円を想定する。

http://response.jp/article/2016/04/21/273974.html

埼玉に水素ステーション、太陽光発電の余剰電力を備蓄できる奇跡のエネルギー
http://hayabusa8.2ch.net/test/read.cgi/news/1461486883/20141031160429zixco

2.名前: ビッグブーツ(茸)@\(^o^)/sage
投稿日:2016/04/24(日) 17:40:42.77 ID:Mub7Rcie0.net

もっと出せバカ

3.名前: 断崖式ニードロップ(大阪府)@\(^o^)/
投稿日:2016/04/24(日) 17:42:23.93 ID:4TOtS0XU0.net

水素で経済が活性化する

4.名前: TEKKAMAKI(公衆電話)@\(^o^)/
投稿日:2016/04/24(日) 17:43:06.54 ID:Mg80/rQR0.net

東京都北区赤羽にてドトールコーヒーの運営する
エクセルシオールカフェ 赤羽東口店では、
店員が、自分(客)の事を「好きだ」と言い始めたので
優しくしたら、関係のない容姿のxれない
朝番が、やっかみはじめた。
因みに(最初のは偉い娘なのか?創価の?警察動けず)その子はずっと店にいると喜んでた
接客は最低で最初の男店長は公私混同
自分が好きなんじゃないと言う態度
iPadをあげた時は、その子干されてた
ありがとうございますも言わない始末
事実だから、捕まらない それは店側が不利で
被害届けを出せない
店は誰が書いてるかわかっている 一部客を
含めた店ぐるみだ
チビとの愛を引き裂かないで
母体 創価学会だから態度悪いの?
犯罪隠蔽 警視庁赤羽警察
赤羽に誘われたら学会員かも 創価の街
赤羽住民は事実を知っているが口止めされている
学会介入で基本、株は下がらない模様
最近TVで赤羽特集多いのは、創価の圧力
ドトール使うと集団ストーカーにあうかも? kiuchi (転載可)
創価学会ってお祈りの時、どう言うの
やはり ソーメン

5.名前: ブラディサンデー(宮城県)@\(^o^)/
投稿日:2016/04/24(日) 17:43:11.53 ID:CMzJaMcn0.net

これはやりすぎ
バカじゃないの

6.名前: パロスペシャル(山形県)@\(^o^)/sage
投稿日:2016/04/24(日) 17:43:43.94 ID:y3IfCPpO0.net

そんな金あるなら減税しろゲリ池沼

7.名前: 目潰し(茸)@\(^o^)/
投稿日:2016/04/24(日) 17:44:21.32 ID:kg0aDG5g0.net

全然足りないと思いますよ

8.名前: 魔神風車固め(茸)@\(^o^)/
投稿日:2016/04/24(日) 17:44:23.69 ID:LMEYrEjA0.net

5兆円くらいぶち込めよ
オリンピックより安いもんだろ

9.名前: 膝十字固め(茸)@\(^o^)/
投稿日:2016/04/24(日) 17:44:48.34 ID:wkcjb4Zy0.net

オリンピック予算より少ないとかやる気ないよね

10.名前: ハーフネルソンスープレックス(空)@\(^o^)/sage
投稿日:2016/04/24(日) 17:44:59.01 ID:FVabSn430.net

福島の放射性物質を活かした原子炉を車に積め

11.名前: カーフブランディング(茸)@\(^o^)/
投稿日:2016/04/24(日) 17:45:18.67 ID:QSz9kh/S0.net

それじゃ国立競技場3個くらいしか作れねぇ

スポンサーリンク

12.名前: ローリングソバット(茸)@\(^o^)/
投稿日:2016/04/24(日) 17:46:04.28 ID:1epyXnI60.net

10兆円くらい出せよ
これは将来的に何倍にもなって返ってくるだ

13.名前: トラースキック(空)@\(^o^)/sage
投稿日:2016/04/24(日) 17:47:15.88 ID:u1BiiQGx0.net

トヨタのために一兆円

14.名前: ラ ケブラーダ(北海道)@\(^o^)/sage
投稿日:2016/04/24(日) 17:47:41.73 ID:dF7hqore0.net

水素は自動車には向かないよ
発電所作るくらいならいいけどさあ

15.名前: フェイスクラッシャー(新疆ウイグル自治区)@\(^o^)/
投稿日:2016/04/24(日) 17:48:12.65 ID:x1H0x5450.net

この国には「サヨクを批判する報道の自由」が無い

日本好き ← 極右!ファシズム!戦争!!軍靴の音!!!
日本死ね ← 素晴らしい!!
韓国好き ← 素晴らしい!!
韓国死ね ← ヘイト!ヘイト!人種差別!反省!!謝罪と賠償!! 政治利用最低!!!

な ぜ な の か ?

そしてこのくだりを一切取り上げない日本の売国捏造朝鮮マスゴミ
自分たちに都合の悪いニュースは伝えない自由を全力行使

政治はマスコミがせっせとチェックしている
だが第4の権力と言ってよいマスコミをチェックする存在がこの国にはない
だから日本はマスゴミばっかり

この現状は国民にも政治にもマスコミにとっても不幸なこと
だが肝心のマスゴミどもが自らの特権を手放したくなくて、捏造偏向報道やりたい放題の悲しい現状

本当にこの国をどうにかしようと思うなら、真っ先に売国捏造朝鮮マスゴミ(特に朝日・毎日)をどうにかしなきゃならん

16.名前: ミラノ作 どどんスズスロウン(関西地方)@\(^o^)/
投稿日:2016/04/24(日) 17:48:44.00 ID:jndlQPxI0.net

安倍ちゃんからトヨタ魂を感じる

17.名前: 足4の字固め(熊本県)@\(^o^)/sage
投稿日:2016/04/24(日) 17:48:47.46 ID:Y9qfVig/0.net

無駄金 
水素燃料電池車は日本だけのガラパゴス自動車として世界中から嘲笑される。

18.名前: ファイヤーボールスプラッシュ(埼玉県)@\(^o^)/
投稿日:2016/04/24(日) 17:49:02.08 ID:89Eszm2i0.net

無駄スギィ

19.名前: サッカーボールキック(チベット自治区)@\(^o^)/
投稿日:2016/04/24(日) 17:50:29.11 ID:6GFa4EFU0.net

こんなのトヨタをはじめ各企業に総額1兆円くれてやってるのと同じだろ
儲かっても税金を収めないでパナマに送金して租税回避する始末

20.名前: 不知火(catv?)@\(^o^)/
投稿日:2016/04/24(日) 17:50:47.69 ID:ctaMLbfc0.net

戸田の水素ステーションいつもガラガラだよ

21.名前: 中年’sリフト(庭)@\(^o^)/sage
投稿日:2016/04/24(日) 17:50:48.68 ID:Uh0rrBAz0.net

大企業に入れなかった奴らの僻みw

22.名前: ローリングソバット(茸)@\(^o^)/
投稿日:2016/04/24(日) 17:51:14.14 ID:1epyXnI60.net

水素はアメリカでも確実に普及するよ
GMが一点張りで投資しちゃったからw

23.名前: ストレッチプラム(庭)@\(^o^)/sage
投稿日:2016/04/24(日) 17:51:36.83 ID:ROPAMwIS0.net

>>2
これ。

24.名前: ラダームーンサルト(茸)@\(^o^)/
投稿日:2016/04/24(日) 17:51:38.06 ID:RMISA+L00.net

>>20
この段階で混んでたら事件だろ

25.名前: ビッグブーツ(茸)@\(^o^)/
投稿日:2016/04/24(日) 17:51:39.57 ID:Mub7Rcie0.net

>>17
そんな事は無い

26.名前: チェーン攻撃(神奈川県)@\(^o^)/
投稿日:2016/04/24(日) 17:51:51.11 ID:5Esy2qC60.net

いや安倍の判断は正しい。

郊外の少ない日本では水素自動車?別にガソリンでいいだろ
みたいなチンケなものに思えるが
中国やインド、東南アジアなどの公害事情を知れば
世界の人類を救うのは水素自動車だと確信出来る。

電気自動車は大陸で長距離走行できないから使い物にならない。
やはり水素自動車以外に選択肢は無い。

27.名前: 32文ロケット砲(長野県)@\(^o^)/
投稿日:2016/04/24(日) 17:51:54.00 ID:ay2k53BA0.net

水素作るのに他のエネルギー使うとかいう非効率なものが流行るんですか?

28.名前: ジャーマンスープレックス(茸)@\(^o^)/
投稿日:2016/04/24(日) 17:52:29.36 ID:T3sF8iWc0.net

>>19
1兆円で10兆円産業が生まれるなら安いものだろ
覚醒剤の密売よりもうかるわけで

29.名前: フロントネックロック(茸)@\(^o^)/
投稿日:2016/04/24(日) 17:52:56.94 ID:bxf3L+yR0.net

たった1兆円とかなめてるだろ

30.名前: パイルドライバー(茸)@\(^o^)/sage
投稿日:2016/04/24(日) 17:52:59.08 ID:+bHean7t0.net

09065二32304
文句があるならかかっ

31.名前: チェーン攻撃(神奈川県)@\(^o^)/
投稿日:2016/04/24(日) 17:53:55.26 ID:5Esy2qC60.net

電気自動車の問題は走行距離の短さにある。

日本のような小さな島では走行距離の問題は大した問題じゃないが
アメリカや中国、インドのような大陸では走行距離が短いと使い物にならない。

俺は水素技術こそが世界から汚い空気や公害を無くすと確信している。

32.名前: ボマイェ(北海道)@\(^o^)/sage
投稿日:2016/04/24(日) 17:54:04.10 ID:1KVv5Is60.net

スパコンにも投資するべきだろ

33.名前: ラ ケブラーダ(茸)@\(^o^)/
投稿日:2016/04/24(日) 17:54:22.65 ID:BL1Gv6n80.net

明日にでも10兆円くらいブチ込むべき。
水素に関しては国内でお金がグルグルするだけだし100兆円ブチ込んでもいいくらい。

34.名前: 河津掛け(dion軍)@\(^o^)/
投稿日:2016/04/24(日) 17:54:55.03 ID:6FmaTbq10.net

これから追加するのかな?
1兆円だとどのくらいの事ができるかわからんけど
エネルギー開発と宇宙事業は金かけていいと思う

35.名前: ミドルキック(茨城県)@\(^o^)/sage
投稿日:2016/04/24(日) 17:55:18.52 ID:eoyMJOhZ0.net

水素はあかんよ
電池に負ける
トヨタが全部特許公開したのも、技術的には負けるからシェアでなんとかしようとした

36.名前: ラ ケブラーダ(東日本)@\(^o^)/sage
投稿日:2016/04/24(日) 17:55:24.27 ID:wYs+KKIw0.net

EVなんて中国でも簡単に作れるからな
下請けや国内企業を守るためにはFCVに金をかけるしかない

37.名前: チェーン攻撃(神奈川県)@\(^o^)/
投稿日:2016/04/24(日) 17:55:46.16 ID:5Esy2qC60.net

例えば中国の大都市は公害が酷くとても安心して人が住めないような環境下にある。

中国だけでなく途上国の大都市は似たような状況にある。
一刻も早い水素自動車の導入が必要な状況だ。

38.名前: イス攻撃(茸)@\(^o^)/
投稿日:2016/04/24(日) 17:55:46.27 ID:L5L8EZom0.net

水素はまだ日本製のタンクしかないからな。
投資して市場独占するならオリンピックまでにやるしかない。
遅れれば間違いなく海外勢にパクられる

39.名前: ハイキック(茸)@\(^o^)/
投稿日:2016/04/24(日) 17:57:17.95 ID:Tjz/s8sN0.net

>>34
新国立競技場を2個くらい建てられる
建築費だけでなく維持費込みでね

40.名前: ラ ケブラーダ(北海道)@\(^o^)/sage
投稿日:2016/04/24(日) 17:57:19.04 ID:dF7hqore0.net

燃料電池車がガソリンに勝ってる要素が無いからユーザーにメリットがないんだよ
顧客の望まないものを無理矢理押し付けようとしても絶対失敗する

41.名前: チェーン攻撃(神奈川県)@\(^o^)/
投稿日:2016/04/24(日) 17:57:25.78 ID:5Esy2qC60.net

>>35
電池は走行距離が短いから普及しないだろう。

少し使うと電池が劣化してどんどん走行距離が短くなるし
とてもじゃないが実用的じゃない

42.名前: ストレッチプラム(庭)@\(^o^)/sage
投稿日:2016/04/24(日) 17:57:25.81 ID:ROPAMwIS0.net

>>27
エネルギーを地中から掘っても出て来ない国は、元々何かしらの方法でエネルギー源をもってこなきゃならんのですが、ナニカ?

43.名前: ストマッククロー(茸)@\(^o^)/
投稿日:2016/04/24(日) 17:57:45.20 ID:A1JmSETg0.net

最低でも5兆円はいれろよ

44.名前: トペ スイシーダ(東日本)@\(^o^)/
投稿日:2016/04/24(日) 17:57:58.81 ID:phqZuKc60.net

まーた三菱か?

45.名前: ダイビングエルボードロップ(神奈川県)@\(^o^)/sage
投稿日:2016/04/24(日) 17:58:25.87 ID:sktEnULM0.net

>>27
エネルギーの備蓄手段じゃね。
使い勝手の悪い太陽光発電の電力を備蓄

46.名前: ブラディサンデー(茸)@\(^o^)/
投稿日:2016/04/24(日) 17:58:35.84 ID:am1Vsu7I0.net

水素は欠点ないだろ
量産効果がまだないから高いくらいしか欠点がない

47.名前: チェーン攻撃(神奈川県)@\(^o^)/
投稿日:2016/04/24(日) 17:58:47.40 ID:5Esy2qC60.net

>40
公害の少ない日本人から見るとそう思えるが
途上国に住んで汚い空気を吸っている人たちは一刻も早く水素自動車が必要な状況だ。

48.名前: サッカーボールキック(やわらか銀行)@\(^o^)/
投稿日:2016/04/24(日) 17:58:51.64 ID:K/ZS/iiX0.net

地震エネルギー発電

49.名前: サッカーボールキック(チベット自治区)@\(^o^)/
投稿日:2016/04/24(日) 17:58:52.54 ID:6GFa4EFU0.net

>>42
日本は莫大な石炭の埋蔵量を誇りますが?

50.名前: ハーフネルソンスープレックス(関西地方)@\(^o^)/sage
投稿日:2016/04/24(日) 17:58:57.01 ID:Kd7Y93r20.net

エネルギー技術は日進月歩

一つに拘る施策は丁半博打と同じ也

51.名前: ミドルキック(茨城県)@\(^o^)/sage
投稿日:2016/04/24(日) 17:59:30.82 ID:eoyMJOhZ0.net

>>41
人間そんなに長距離移動しないって
VRの普及で益々移動しなくなるぞ

52.名前: ジャンピングカラテキック(中部地方)@\(^o^)/
投稿日:2016/04/24(日) 17:59:37.17 ID:lzzM6cuB0.net

>>46
俺がテロリストなら真っ先に狙うわ。家の近くにできて欲しくない。

53.名前: ブラディサンデー(宮城県)@\(^o^)/
投稿日:2016/04/24(日) 17:59:51.24 ID:CMzJaMcn0.net

どうせやるなら水素をメチルシクロヘキサンにして液化輸送配送貯蔵にして
ガソリンスタンドで水素化する技術に力を入れたほうがいいんじゃね?

54.名前: ボマイェ(茸)@\(^o^)/
投稿日:2016/04/24(日) 18:00:20.01 ID:EYYfZxWN0.net

>>27
水素は余剰電力の備蓄に使える。
効率でいえば揚水力だが水素は場所選ばない。

太陽光にしろ原発にしろ余剰電力は莫大に出るわけでそれを有効活用できるのは大きい

55.名前: ストレッチプラム(庭)@\(^o^)/sage
投稿日:2016/04/24(日) 18:00:21.26 ID:ROPAMwIS0.net

>>35
電池ってのは、エネルギー充填と寿命に難があるから。

少なくとも5年~10年は実用足りうるイノベーションは起こらない。
そして、燃料電池やHVの深化は、バッテリー車と競合しない。

そういうことを見越してトヨタはやってんだよ。

56.名前: ヒップアタック(やわらか銀行)@\(^o^)/age
投稿日:2016/04/24(日) 18:00:30.85 ID:e4u2veMz0.net

水素だったら自前で生産可能だから、海外に依存するのは不要

57.名前: チェーン攻撃(神奈川県)@\(^o^)/
投稿日:2016/04/24(日) 18:00:45.05 ID:5Esy2qC60.net

>>51
いや例えばアメリカ人は2時間3時間走行は当たり前。
ちょっと夕日を見に行こうと3時間離れた場所へ平気でドライブする。

電気自動車ではとてもじゃないが持たない距離を走る事が多い。

58.名前: 閃光妖術(東日本)@\(^o^)/
投稿日:2016/04/24(日) 18:00:48.25 ID:lQylLnJW0.net

実際さエコカー減税とかやるより
超ウルトラ光速充電ステーションとかを配置したほうが普及するよね。

59.名前: クロイツラス(dion軍)@\(^o^)/sage
投稿日:2016/04/24(日) 18:00:59.91 ID:ZdfKqxsV0.net

軽の燃料電池車
100万円以下でおながい

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