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【欲なし】今直面してるのは「低欲望社会」だから金が回らない インポ野郎だらけ

   

1.名前: 閃光妖術(東日本)@\(^o^)/
投稿日:2016/10/02(日) 05:35:53.44 ID:M45UsiMh0.net BE:837857943-PLT(16930) ポイント特典

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完全雇用に近い状況のときに、カネをバラまいて景気を刺激するという経済理論は、世界中のどこを探したって見つからない。これはアベノミクスの最大の問題点だ。

ヘリコプターから市中に現金をばらまくかのような「ヘリコプターマネー」で、マネーサプライ(通貨供給量)を大幅に増やすという景気刺激策は、
ハイパーインフレにつながる可能性も高い。ところが、日本の場合にはインフレにもならない。

7月の全国消費者物価指数は5カ月連続の下落となった。その理由は、いわゆる「低欲望社会」だからだ。低欲望社会は、金利がほとんどつかなくても貯金は増え、
銀行の貸し出しも減るという日本独特の経済現象。実際、低金利でも借金して家を建てようという人は少ない。カネを握っている人、
つまり高齢者がカネを使う気になっていないからだ。マーケットにも欲しいモノはない。

また、現役世代の給料を少しぐらい上げても、将来の不安や、いざというときのために貯めてしまう。1700兆円もの個人金融資産は表に出てこない。

将来に対する不安から、みんなが持っている金を使わないのだ。

それに気がつく人が安倍首相のアドバイザーの中に1人でもいれば、何とかなるかもしれないのだが。

http://www.zakzak.co.jp/society/domestic/news/20160911/dms1609110830001-n1.htm

2.名前: ニールキック(新疆ウイグル自治区)@\(^o^)/
投稿日:2016/10/02(日) 05:39:15.56 ID:dxcvGtuA0.net

インポ老人共

3.名前: ニールキック(中国地方)@\(^o^)/
投稿日:2016/10/02(日) 05:39:23.69 ID:KsAnBfb20.net

欲望あるけど、金ないから使えないだけだろ

4.名前: ダイビングヘッドバット(東日本)@\(^o^)/sage
投稿日:2016/10/02(日) 05:41:52.33 ID:uXI80BPz0.net

低欲望を個人のせいにするのは違うだろ
それは集団意識なんだよ
全体が加熱するような仕組みを作らなければいけない

5.名前: フォーク攻撃(西日本)@\(^o^)/sage
投稿日:2016/10/02(日) 05:44:25.73 ID:ir6FaarV0.net

そういう社会にしてしまった自民党。

6.名前: ダブルニードロップ(禿)@\(^o^)/
投稿日:2016/10/02(日) 05:45:50.11 ID:c2mIPujD0.net

年金福祉が崩壊したからだよ
病院の食費が1食260円→460円に跳ね上がったり
国民健康保険料が上がったり
介護もぱきっと改悪したのでこれからすごい社会問題になる
金を使ってる場合じゃない、自己責任だからな

そして東京五輪、このタイミングでとんでもねえ浪費が確定した
日本やばい、みんな悪いことはいわねえ
欲を抑え将来に備えろ、外貨に変えるのも手

7.名前: フォーク攻撃(チベット自治区)@\(^o^)/sage
投稿日:2016/10/02(日) 05:46:00.91 ID:3cv1JGgr0.net

低欲望じゃなく多様化する社会に合わせた人材を育成出来ない低レベルな教育システムが生んだ時代遅れの社会だろ
昔は1つの物事をただやる人間が大量にいればいい社会だったが少子化対策をしないでそれでは厳しい社会を作って、なのにそれに合わせた教育に金を突っ込むかと言えばそういうわけでも無く
デカイ金をドンと注ぎ込まなきゃ結果は100年遅れてやってくるのにね

8.名前: アキレス腱固め(catv?)@\(^o^)/
投稿日:2016/10/02(日) 05:46:18.51 ID:yVHertiU0.net

貧乏人はない袖は振れ無いんだから
金持ちに大出血させるしか仕方ないだろ
猿でもわかると思うんだが?

9.名前: エルボードロップ(禿)@\(^o^)/
投稿日:2016/10/02(日) 05:48:47.60 ID:TGSr/1Z50.net

>>8
そういえばユニクロ社長柳井正の脱税はどうなったんだろう
あれまずいよね
消費するどころか収めるものを収めてない
つまりマイナス
金持ちの暴走をとめないとあかん

10.名前: ときめきメモリアル(庭)@\(^o^)/
投稿日:2016/10/02(日) 05:52:51.89 ID:MkxDictj0.net

金持ちは脱税して儲けてるんだから景気良くなるわけないだろ

11.名前: 断崖式ニードロップ(やわらか銀行)@\(^o^)/
投稿日:2016/10/02(日) 05:54:32.55 ID:YEEXKswn0.net

公務員と宗教が諸悪の根元だわな

スポンサーリンク

12.名前: ニーリフト(関東・甲信越)@\(^o^)/
投稿日:2016/10/02(日) 05:55:41.02 ID:69GxiRRDO.net

嘘をついてまで消費税を増税しようとして
失敗しても誰も責任を取りゃしない
これから少しでも経済指標が上向いたら
また同じことを繰り返すだろうな

13.名前: キチンシンク(西日本)@\(^o^)/sage
投稿日:2016/10/02(日) 05:56:05.43 ID:mNktKblD0.net

>8
日本の支配層は猿以下だからわからない
貧乏人から搾り取ることしか頭にない

14.名前: セントーン(大阪府)@\(^o^)/
投稿日:2016/10/02(日) 06:00:16.09 ID:/oAEqxWW0.net

日本の公務員の給料が世界的に見て高いので
外国人の優秀な人達と半分をいれかえたらいい
日本の議員の給料も世界の中で高い報酬なので
外国のプロ政治家が日本の選挙にでれるようにして
日本の高報酬でよんで解決して貰ったら良い

15.名前: 16文キック(庭)@\(^o^)/
投稿日:2016/10/02(日) 06:01:51.40 ID:qbGqVdYE0.net

自民党も公務員抱き込むのに中小零細は切り捨てだからな。

公務員の感覚ほどおかしいものは無い。

16.名前: リバースネックブリーカー(東京都)@\(^o^)/
投稿日:2016/10/02(日) 06:03:44.96 ID:kbC6gPcD0.net

若者の欲望離れ

17.名前: ジャストフェイスロック(宮崎県)@\(^o^)/sage
投稿日:2016/10/02(日) 06:04:20.32 ID:fI/KapDq0.net

いや給料上がってないしね

18.名前: サッカーボールキック(大阪府)@\(^o^)/sage
投稿日:2016/10/02(日) 06:09:45.13 ID:5FDr6BJU0.net

国が回す為に更なる増税を!まで書けよなあ…
根性なしめ

19.名前: ツームストンパイルドライバー(東京都)@\(^o^)/sage
投稿日:2016/10/02(日) 06:23:24.29 ID:9kTTjZBM0.net

肉欲棒太郎

20.名前: ラ ケブラーダ(東京都)@\(^o^)/
投稿日:2016/10/02(日) 06:25:27.88 ID:Awj2+UME0.net

バラまいても経団連の網と公務員の網の中だからな
そんで日本に投資しなかったら増税してまた同じ網の中にばらまくと

21.名前: 頭突き(静岡県)@\(^o^)/
投稿日:2016/10/02(日) 06:27:42.03 ID:tm+8oQ210.net

もうアレを合法化するしかないんやで

22.名前: サッカーボールキック(大阪府)@\(^o^)/
投稿日:2016/10/02(日) 06:28:16.31 ID:06tuurPS0.net

手取りが安けりゃそりゃ消費も減るわ

ところで>保育士の酷い待遇 手取り13万
こういうの、他の先進国じゃどうなんだろうね
アメ公は二倍位貰ってそうだが

23.名前: 16文キック(東京都)@\(^o^)/sage
投稿日:2016/10/02(日) 06:28:39.22 ID:2pZzsBIW0.net

将来に不安を作りすぎたのでは?

年金もそうだし、雇用も切りやすくしようとしているし。
短期的な上向きを狙って不発。長期的な不安を発生させるの繰り返し。

24.名前: 断崖式ニードロップ(やわらか銀行)@\(^o^)/
投稿日:2016/10/02(日) 06:30:00.72 ID:YEEXKswn0.net

調子に乗るとすぐに逮捕してくるからな

25.名前: ドラゴンスリーパー(静岡県)@\(^o^)/
投稿日:2016/10/02(日) 06:31:15.78 ID:r6FFzIBe0.net

企業は俺の欲しい物を売らないからな

加工食品は量を減らして同じ値段、俺が欲しいのは量を増やしたやつ
家電製品は多機能低性能、俺が欲しいのは単機能高性能

26.名前: リバースパワースラム(東京都)@\(^o^)/sage
投稿日:2016/10/02(日) 06:34:51.11 ID:AKCO40Oc0.net

まだ勃つよ。2回は行けるね。つかね、相手が締め付けて来るのが悪い。そんな強く締め付けたらすぐ出るから。ペースを考えろよ

27.名前: バックドロップホールド(茸)@\(^o^)/
投稿日:2016/10/02(日) 06:37:05.12 ID:J8hUzkAL0.net

高齢者が本当に欲しいのは若い頃の体力と気力
しかもアンチエイジングなんて生易しい物じゃなく、若返りの薬かサイボーグ化レベルのな

28.名前: キン肉バスター(庭)@\(^o^)/
投稿日:2016/10/02(日) 06:43:32.72 ID:8ZC/DLAK0.net

>>1 レベル低い記事

29.名前: アイアンクロー(catv?)@\(^o^)/sage
投稿日:2016/10/02(日) 06:45:54.54 ID:ZNJYJn1j0.net

消費税だよ阿呆め

30.名前: スターダストプレス(石川県)@\(^o^)/sage
投稿日:2016/10/02(日) 06:45:56.24 ID:87YvMPCG0.net

消費したいが欲しいものがないだけやで。
みんなが同じものほしがる時代でもないしな。

31.名前: キン肉バスター(庭)@\(^o^)/
投稿日:2016/10/02(日) 06:46:11.14 ID:8ZC/DLAK0.net

若者は貯蓄もせず少ない収入を全部使う、年寄りは若いもんに迷惑を掛けないように貯蓄する。金をばら撒いても庶民の所に届いてないから使えないが正解、

32.名前: キン肉バスター(庭)@\(^o^)/
投稿日:2016/10/02(日) 06:47:58.07 ID:8ZC/DLAK0.net

どうせばらまくならヘリマネ
国民に金をバラマキ、国民の消費から株価を押し上げるやり方、単に株を買っていても金は外人か持っていく

33.名前: ヒップアタック(愛知県)@\(^o^)/
投稿日:2016/10/02(日) 06:48:24.43 ID:MhQtAZDx0.net

ヘイブン!
ヘイブン!

34.名前: シャイニングウィザード(WiMAX)@\(^o^)/
投稿日:2016/10/02(日) 06:49:12.62 ID:6C71cGtD0.net

>>30
確かになあ。既製品に魅力がないのかもしれん。

ネットのおかげで、ハンドメイドやオーダメイドのビジネスが伸びてる印象がある。個々には小さい商売だけど、安定感があるわ。

35.名前: ミドルキック(catv?)@\(^o^)/sage
投稿日:2016/10/02(日) 06:51:37.94 ID:nfcGPl7N0.net

>>32
外資に流れるだけなのは、黒田は分かっててやってる。安倍はそもそも説明されても理解不能なくらい頭がアレだからシラネ
日本の資金を使って破綻している外資の延命を承知の上でやっている

アベノミクスなんて端から失敗するのは計画通り。だけど、それに伴う国内の不安定化と民衆の不満を煽って
外国にぶつけて紛争を起こそうとする肝心の部分が周辺国にばれていて実行できないから
全部潰れて終わりになるだけ

36.名前: ラダームーンサルト(神奈川県)@\(^o^)/sage
投稿日:2016/10/02(日) 06:52:14.00 ID:n+RZxsHW0.net

高齢者にとって一番の出費は子や孫への資産継承なのに少子化なんだからしょうがない
こうなったら介護ビジネスの方に船首を向けるしなかいのかね

37.名前: イス攻撃(catv?)@\(^o^)/
投稿日:2016/10/02(日) 06:52:34.77 ID:4542veI80.net

将来の不安はあるにはあるけど
将来自体がないから結構お金使うよ。
ただ手取りが20年前とくらべて3000円増えただけだから
あんまり買えないけどね。

38.名前: 魔神風車固め(やわらか銀行)@\(^o^)/
投稿日:2016/10/02(日) 06:53:07.26 ID:Nu2x3eU80.net

>>6
高齢者に対する政策は、20年前とは雲泥の差
昔の老人より安心して金を使えなくなってる
少し前には年金額も減らされた
消費意欲は低下する一方だよ

39.名前: キン肉バスター(庭)@\(^o^)/
投稿日:2016/10/02(日) 06:56:23.93 ID:8ZC/DLAK0.net

金があれば皆欲しいものを買うさ、

40.名前: アイアンフィンガーフロムヘル(長崎県)@\(^o^)/
投稿日:2016/10/02(日) 06:56:33.08 ID:Y//iNZJI0.net

>>3
今まではカネは借りてきて投資してた

>>4
これがおおまかに正しい
個人では節約は正しいが、それを集団でやってしまうと誤りになる、という形の合成の誤謬
国民の経済オンチが根源、とすれば個人にも集団にも当てはまる正解になる

41.名前: キン肉バスター(庭)@\(^o^)/
投稿日:2016/10/02(日) 06:58:25.33 ID:8ZC/DLAK0.net

政府が派遣化進めているのにローン組むわけかない

42.名前: キン肉バスター(庭)@\(^o^)/
投稿日:2016/10/02(日) 07:01:53.49 ID:8ZC/DLAK0.net

>>35 まあね、今でもあれだけど何年後かには年金も、あれれ?ナニコレ?みたいになってるやろな。

43.名前: ときめきメモリアル(関東・甲信越)@\(^o^)/
投稿日:2016/10/02(日) 07:03:41.97 ID:eZLmmN3RO.net

その欲ってのは
生存欲よりも優先する
遣ってはいけないお金まで費やしてでも満たしたい
謂わば破滅的な欲のことだろ
無いに決まってるだろそんなもの
先に魅力的な商品なりサービスがあるのならまだしも
うんことキムチ並べてコレで興奮しろとか
ほぼ恐喝じゃねぇか

44.名前: 魔神風車固め(やわらか銀行)@\(^o^)/
投稿日:2016/10/02(日) 07:04:37.74 ID:Nu2x3eU80.net

福祉が充実しているから安心して金を使えて貯蓄が少ない国がある
福祉国家並みの税金の高さで福祉がダメだから不安で金を使えない日本
年金を株では運用という年寄りが不安でたまらない政策
いざとなれば、また年金減額の可能性
これじゃあ派手好き団塊世代の財布の紐もかたくなる

45.名前: アイアンフィンガーフロムヘル(長崎県)@\(^o^)/
投稿日:2016/10/02(日) 07:07:46.44 ID:Y//iNZJI0.net

福祉国家では高齢者医療は予算の都合錠カットされて
もっぱら予防医療とQoLだが
おまえらは自業自得の比率が高い人工透析すら長谷川叩きたさに擁護するよな

46.名前: ローリングソバット(庭)@\(^o^)/
投稿日:2016/10/02(日) 07:08:40.19 ID:azZZIjzY0.net

メディアが老人達に対して、日本を滅ぼしたいの?ってくらい金つかわない生活をすすめてるじゃん

47.名前: ときめきメモリアル(関東・甲信越)@\(^o^)/
投稿日:2016/10/02(日) 07:10:53.99 ID:eZLmmN3RO.net

つうか年金なんて疾うに駄目になってるだろ
既に払い込んだ分は見逃してやるから
とっとと白旗掲げて徴収やめろ

48.名前: アイアンフィンガーフロムヘル(長崎県)@\(^o^)/
投稿日:2016/10/02(日) 07:14:38.71 ID:Y//iNZJI0.net

低欲望社会になったのではなく
日本社会が、個人個人が「自分は賢い」と勘違いしているアホの集団になってしまっただけ

49.名前: フォーク攻撃(dion軍)@\(^o^)/sage
投稿日:2016/10/02(日) 07:17:56.38 ID:IjoiUMSx0.net

覚せい剤と同じだよ
手を出さなければ興味も湧かない
給与を渋る企業ばかりで物はどんどん売れなくなる
結果、自分たちの首を締めてるだけ

人の上に立つ身でありながら
金は巡る物だと分かってない馬鹿が多すぎる

50.名前: フォーク攻撃(dion軍)@\(^o^)/sage
投稿日:2016/10/02(日) 07:18:56.63 ID:IjoiUMSx0.net

無欲が蔓延る
こういう形で資本主義が終わるのも
面白いかもしれないな

51.名前: アイアンフィンガーフロムヘル(長崎県)@\(^o^)/
投稿日:2016/10/02(日) 07:21:10.07 ID:Y//iNZJI0.net

蔓延してるのは無欲ではなく無知
しかも情報過多社会で、という皮肉

52.名前: ボマイェ(新潟・東北)@\(^o^)/
投稿日:2016/10/02(日) 07:25:50.23 ID:zxwqiAeyO.net

豆腐が売れず おからが売れる

53.名前: ダイビングフットスタンプ(茸)@\(^o^)/
投稿日:2016/10/02(日) 07:34:38.24 ID:VcmJpuwA0.net

欲しいものは買ってるけどな
家に車にバイクにギターにパソコンなんでも
逆に昔ってどんだけ金使ってたんだよ

54.名前: ニールキック(大阪府)@\(^o^)/sage
投稿日:2016/10/02(日) 07:35:13.84 ID:FCToGLQj0.net

金はあるけど、将来もずっと職が保証されてるわけじゃないし、結婚や子育てにも金かかりそうだから

55.名前: フォーク攻撃(千葉県)@\(^o^)/sage
投稿日:2016/10/02(日) 07:43:08.62 ID:XfAtz+6w0.net

経済のために消費するって本末転倒じゃないか
余計な産業を肥やしてどうする
経済が縮小するならすればいい
余剰な生産力と資本が人々が本当に必要としている分野へと割かれるんだろう

56.名前: 急所攻撃(チベット自治区)@\(^o^)/
投稿日:2016/10/02(日) 07:47:21.25 ID:BsaGDSZ90.net

だって・・・国債額みたら100%最終的に日本はデフォルトするってわかってるから。

日本国内で消費されているからwwwww
あほか。大半の人間は、日本国債を買っている奴に金を吸い上げられているだけだわ。

57.名前: ボ ラギノール(dion軍)@\(^o^)/sage
投稿日:2016/10/02(日) 07:48:10.89 ID:0JQGt+hC0.net

俺もこんな感じだわ、独身で家のローンも完済
仕事以外ではほとんど外出せず家でネット三昧
金は貯まる一方で使わない

58.名前: エルボードロップ(千葉県)@\(^o^)/sage
投稿日:2016/10/02(日) 07:52:16.06 ID:LIHNl1230.net

なんだ経済音痴の大前かw

59.名前: エルボードロップ(千葉県)@\(^o^)/sage
投稿日:2016/10/02(日) 07:55:09.34 ID:LIHNl1230.net

>>56

その日本国債を買っている奴って誰ですか?w

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