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【学歴なんて関係ナイ?】Fラン大学の学生を採用した結果

   

1.名前: 稲妻レッグラリアット(catv?)@\(^o^)/ [IL]
投稿日:2017/03/28(火) 14:20:42.50 ID:KcB34Zy40●.net BE:299336179-PLT(13500)

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https://headlines.yahoo.co.jp/hl?a=20170327-00010000-storys-life
「うちはマーチ以上しかとらん!」

人事室室長が顔を真っ赤にして罵声を浴びせてきました。

営業を数年経験した後に、
人事部に配属になった私は、はじめこそ上のやり方に従って採用活動をしていたものの、次第に会社のやり方は間違っているのではと疑問を持つようになっていました。

いつも人を見下したような態度をとる東大出の人事部室長は、学歴差別主義者で「学歴と仕事の出来は比例しとる」という考えの持ち主でした。
大阪出身できついなまりが特徴的です。

間違ったことは言っていないと思いますが、例外があるのは確かです。

色々な学生と面接をする中で、とある偏差値40台の大学の学生「高橋君」に出会いました。彼は高い志とモチベーションをもって学生生活を送り、
社会人としてはばたきたいと目を輝かせていました。

室長の弱みは室長より上の人間。私は思い切って全体会議で社長に進言してみることにしました。

「採用方針について提案があります」

学歴は低いが優秀な学生がいたと報告し、学歴選別をなくしましょうと提案しました。室長は一瞬、ギロリとこちらをにらんだ後、みけんにしわをよせていました。

「うん、いいね。いいんじゃない」

社長の反応は好感触でした。

「今回は社長がああいうようだから…」

不服そうな表情で室長は、外に目をやりながらポツリと言いました。やられたらやり返す。倍返しだ!

その後、高橋君は希望していた営業に配属になってから、入社後5日でばっくれ退社しました。

理由はおそらく、コピーのミスを怒られたことだと思います。11時頃に気がついたらいなくなっていて、それ以降電話にでないとのこと。

皮肉にも室長の「勉強する根性もない」と言う言葉通りだったのです。私は間違っていたのでしょうか。長年経験のある室長の言うことを素直に聞いていればよかったのでしょうか。

低学歴の学生でも活躍できる可能性はあるので、企業もチャンスを与えるべきというのが依然として私の持論ですが、コメント欄で「企業は学歴で採用すべきかどうか」についてみなさんのご意見をお聞きしてみたいと思っております。

2.名前: 稲妻レッグラリアット(catv?)@\(^o^)/ [IL]
投稿日:2017/03/28(火) 14:22:24.27 ID:KcB34Zy40

?PLT(12500)


バッドエンドじゃねえか

3.名前: 逆落とし(東京都)@\(^o^)/ [ニダ]
投稿日:2017/03/28(火) 14:23:13.91 ID:LUN6AjJ10.net

くろやなぎさーん!
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/Axetf2zBGl0/hqdefault.jpg

4.名前: 毒霧(東京都)@\(^o^)/ [US]
投稿日:2017/03/28(火) 14:24:25.22 ID:rbVoiVOY0.net

自分より高学歴な奴は基本使えねえだろうが
いい歳して損な事も判らないのか この馬鹿チョンは

5.名前: 栓抜き攻撃(長崎県)@\(^o^)/ [RU]
投稿日:2017/03/28(火) 14:26:38.23 ID:wlQFbJtg0.net

入社後5日で逃げたならそんときに記事にしろ
わざわざこの時期狙って本当に可能性あるFラン学生の芽を摘むなよカス

6.名前: スリーパーホールド(catv?)@\(^o^)/ [CN]sage
投稿日:2017/03/28(火) 14:26:49.19 ID:6YclVADS0.net

大学進学率50%な上に少子化で定員ガバガバ
マーチだって別に優秀なわけでもないが、室長の学生時代の並程度の教養があるってことだろ

7.名前: 閃光妖術(公衆電話)@\(^o^)/ [FR]sage
投稿日:2017/03/28(火) 14:27:48.90 ID:36fWpPC70.net

バイト経験もない真っ白な子だと社会の理不尽さにやられてしまうかもね
バイトしまくってスレてる子もアレだけどさ

8.名前: ミッドナイトエクスプレス(SB-iPhone)@\(^o^)/ [DE]sage
投稿日:2017/03/28(火) 14:29:53.35 ID:ut0/KdgR0.net

例外は所詮例外。
新卒一般社員であれば大外れを引かないのが吉。
学歴低い奴を採用するなら中途で様子見。

9.名前: セントーン(チベット自治区)@\(^o^)/ [HU]
投稿日:2017/03/28(火) 14:30:18.74 ID:CLd7e7uH0.net

どんな業界でもいいから活躍して人気を持続させている人の学歴見てみな。
漫画家やイラストレーター、写真家みたいな水商売でも驚くぐらい高学歴。
専門学校なんてもはやほとんどいない。
勉強だろうが仕事だろうが、予習して、当日があって復習は共通だよ。
ただ私立の坊ちゃん嬢ちゃんの中には寄付だけでブランド校に入ってるやつがいるから
こういうババ引かなければいいだけだよ

10.名前: ドラゴンスリーパー(dion軍)@\(^o^)/ [US]sage
投稿日:2017/03/28(火) 14:30:34.94 ID:OFBqDuBL0.net

東大国公立早慶六大学と高学歴でも犯罪者レイパーおるんやから一概には言えんな

11.名前: フォーク攻撃(茸)@\(^o^)/ [EU]
投稿日:2017/03/28(火) 14:31:23.10 ID:EfUUq9n50.net

コピーのミスを社内で注意されたくらいでやめるなら対外活動あった時どうすんだよ
こっちは客だ神様扱いしろみたいのばっかだぞ
ミスなんか単純な怒りだけでなく、日頃のストレスまとめて罵倒されだぞ

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12.名前: マスク剥ぎ(庭)@\(^o^)/ [ニダ]
投稿日:2017/03/28(火) 14:33:24.13 ID:4WTCjLtc0.net

>>1
ホモオチのような見事な手のひら返しでズッコケたわw

13.名前: TEKKAMAKI(兵庫県)@\(^o^)/ [CA]
投稿日:2017/03/28(火) 14:33:34.87 ID:3tS50YF60.net

勉強したくて大学までいくくせにFランにしかいけないやつなんて無能で当然だろ
まだ勉強嫌いのヤンキーのほうがましなレベルだわ

14.名前: ニールキック(茸)@\(^o^)/ [ニダ]sage
投稿日:2017/03/28(火) 14:33:36.77 ID:E8JbcLV/0.net

学歴より「今何をしているのか」だわな

中卒でも社長なら偉いし、高卒でも一流企業社員なら偉い
高学歴で社会的に地位の高い職に就いているなら最高だけど、高学歴でも
無職やバイトなら
中卒や高卒でも正社員で働いてる人間の方が上等だわな

15.名前: ネックハンギングツリー(catv?)@\(^o^)/ [ID]
投稿日:2017/03/28(火) 14:35:51.01 ID:8Pxv7HL40.net

学歴関係無しに「出来る奴は出来る」「出来ない奴は辞めさせる」そして最近出来ない奴の多い事多い事、結局ある程度で妥協するしかねーんだよ

16.名前: フェイスクラッシャー(東京都)@\(^o^)/ [FR]sage
投稿日:2017/03/28(火) 14:36:03.34 ID:tkcTgIZZ0.net

誰でも知ってる某飲料メーカーは社長の出身大学レベル以上の学生は取らない。これ珈琲豆な。

17.名前: デンジャラスバックドロップ(チベット自治区)@\(^o^)/ [ニダ]
投稿日:2017/03/28(火) 14:36:04.16 ID:88QUATI10.net

大学構内に置き引き注意の貼り紙がある時点でもうね
その程度の学生しか居らんのだよ

18.名前: キチンシンク(庭)@\(^o^)/ [ニダ]
投稿日:2017/03/28(火) 14:36:33.79 ID:MJbMKF0X0.net

室長「な?」

19.名前: 16文キック(神奈川県)@\(^o^)/ [KR]
投稿日:2017/03/28(火) 14:38:17.61 ID:9XtaFitP0.net

まあ生まれ持った知能というものがあるから

>「勉強する根性もない」

こういう根性さえあれば勉強できるなんて意見はナンセンス

20.名前: チェーン攻撃(北海道)@\(^o^)/ [US]
投稿日:2017/03/28(火) 14:38:33.27 ID:LNuNU5mP0.net

金沢大学卒 岡尚大 (40歳・職歴無し)に就職先を紹介してください

21.名前: グロリア(禿)@\(^o^)/ [US]sage
投稿日:2017/03/28(火) 14:38:39.52 ID:jd/vHIPM0.net

室長△

22.名前: トペ スイシーダ(庭)@\(^o^)/ [US]
投稿日:2017/03/28(火) 14:40:05.91 ID:tOBx6rks0.net

中卒よりも高校中退の方がダメな印象だけど俺は逆だと思う
高校に行こうと思うこと、高校に受かる知能はあることはかなり大事
採用してもそこらのFラン大卒より使えるけどひと握りかな……

23.名前: イス攻撃(catv?)@\(^o^)/ [JP]
投稿日:2017/03/28(火) 14:42:20.31 ID:x4fqWmZw0.net

>>12
ゲイコピペみたいなオチだな

24.名前: ジャストフェイスロック(新疆ウイグル自治区)@\(^o^)/ [IN]sage
投稿日:2017/03/28(火) 14:43:04.52 ID:9KB/YNST0.net

>>20
勉強する根性しかなかったおっさんはもっといらない

25.名前: アトミックドロップ(東京都)@\(^o^)/ [US]
投稿日:2017/03/28(火) 14:43:15.90 ID:jTO7U7z40.net

比例は間違いだろ。正しくは正の相関関係がある。

26.名前: セントーン(チベット自治区)@\(^o^)/ [HU]
投稿日:2017/03/28(火) 14:43:42.76 ID:CLd7e7uH0.net

今時の大企業なんて世界相手に毎日全社員でオリンピックやってるようなもん
基礎体力も運動能力も下位の連中を入れたら足手まといになるだけなんだろうな。
室長GJ

実力相応のところで頑張る方が本人のため、周囲のため。

27.名前: トペ スイシーダ(埼玉県)@\(^o^)/ [ニダ]
投稿日:2017/03/28(火) 14:44:50.34 ID:xTtWQq2P0.net

>>10 そういうのに限って外面が異様に良かったりするから困る(´・ω・`)

28.名前: グロリア(大阪府)@\(^o^)/ [CN]
投稿日:2017/03/28(火) 14:49:30.10 ID:WuA3UZHb0.net

いくらFランでも5日でバックレるとかFランでも出来るやつ並みにレアだぞ
そんな底辺を有能だと思って採用した奴が一番の無能

29.名前: 16文キック(神奈川県)@\(^o^)/ [KR]sage
投稿日:2017/03/28(火) 14:49:37.79 ID:9XtaFitP0.net

本当に優秀な人は雇われる側の人間で居続けないし
中の上くらいが大企業?で二流の給料貰って性活してるだがな

30.名前: デンジャラスバックドロップ(庭)@\(^o^)/ [CA]
投稿日:2017/03/28(火) 14:49:56.31 ID:bEPgvWGh0.net

>>17
東大は女子をレイプしてはいけませんから教えようか

31.名前: レッドインク(千葉県)@\(^o^)/ [US]sage
投稿日:2017/03/28(火) 14:50:51.85 ID:Wo9a0EQA0.net

正直、面接での印象なんて当てにならないからね。
なにしろ相手は最大限に猫かぶってるんだから。
そりゃあ何十人も入れれば中には当たりがいるかもしれんが
新入社員と言うのは如何に当たりの確率を上げるかだから
上司のいうことには一理ある。
勉強じゃなくてもスポーツでも何かに一生懸命になったことが
ある奴なら使える見込みは多いけど、スポーツでがんばった奴も
結果としてFランには行かないから、結論として
Fランはクズの巣窟だと認定して間違いはないと思うね。

32.名前: エルボードロップ(奈良県)@\(^o^)/ [IT]sage
投稿日:2017/03/28(火) 14:51:32.74 ID:16wHbB4H0.net

とりあえず体育会系の奴隷耐性あるやつ取ればいいじゃん

33.名前: メンマ(catv?)@\(^o^)/ [ニダ]
投稿日:2017/03/28(火) 14:52:07.26 ID:p5/85JqG0.net

5日ももったのがむしろすごい

34.名前: アンクルホールド(茸)@\(^o^)/ [US]age
投稿日:2017/03/28(火) 14:52:15.74 ID:uTBD/UhY0.net

>>3
なんじゃーい!
http://i.imgur.com/i6Atr4x.jpg

35.名前: エルボードロップ(奈良県)@\(^o^)/ [IT]sage
投稿日:2017/03/28(火) 14:52:21.46 ID:16wHbB4H0.net

>>28
上っ面だけのエセリア充でも引いたんだろ

36.名前: スリーパーホールド(catv?)@\(^o^)/ [CN]sage
投稿日:2017/03/28(火) 14:54:22.36 ID:6YclVADS0.net

>>31
まぁ確かにFラン在学中に勉強して資格を取得するとかの証明方法はあるよな、やる気の
下手すりゃ運転免許すら持ってない奴がゴロゴロいるわけだし

37.名前: TEKKAMAKI(神奈川県)@\(^o^)/ [FR]sage
投稿日:2017/03/28(火) 14:55:24.41 ID:tMZgDfa/0.net

クソワロタ

38.名前: オリンピック予選スラム(大阪府)@\(^o^)/ [ニダ]
投稿日:2017/03/28(火) 14:56:14.62 ID:/nqabayX0.net

採用したくなければ、採用しないければ良いだけの話。
企業の自由さ。そこは。

39.名前: オリンピック予選スラム(大阪府)@\(^o^)/ [ニダ]
投稿日:2017/03/28(火) 14:59:20.07 ID:/nqabayX0.net

つうか、2chはFランに関心持ち過ぎw
ネタとして面白いか?って思うわw

40.名前: 栓抜き攻撃(やわらか銀行)@\(^o^)/ [ニダ]
投稿日:2017/03/28(火) 14:59:35.46 ID:u9umViCP0.net

Fランク大生は高校を見ろ
学区トップ校にいってたら
優秀だよ。

41.名前: ミッドナイトエクスプレス(東京都)@\(^o^)/ [US]
投稿日:2017/03/28(火) 15:01:09.35 ID:7Gv+u2U20.net

頭わるいくせに大学いった奴はきまってろくでもない奴になる。
大学時代にクソ化する。
それなら、中卒で働くことしか考えてない奴のほうが世間をよく見てるし、
新聞に書かれてることと書かれなかったことくらいはきちっと見てる。
世間を生きよう働くことで懸命になる。
おれの友だちのうち中卒はみんな、がんばって働いてすでに一千万二千万稼ぐのがざら。
借金もしたけど、結局今はがしがし稼ぎに行ってる。
なかには悪い事やって二十億稼いでるのもいるけど、
それも一つの覚悟ある生き方だしね。

42.名前: バックドロップホールド(東京都)@\(^o^)/ [US]sage
投稿日:2017/03/28(火) 15:01:18.25 ID:QM65WYxk0.net

サンプル1件だし、この結果だとFランを貶める意図しか感じられない

43.名前: リバースパワースラム(東京都)@\(^o^)/ [US]sage
投稿日:2017/03/28(火) 15:01:41.27 ID:EZ7UvPpI0.net

VIPでスレ建ててる可能性あるな
5日でばっくれって

44.名前: ミッドナイトエクスプレス(東京都)@\(^o^)/ [US]
投稿日:2017/03/28(火) 15:04:34.10 ID:7Gv+u2U20.net

ほんと大学はガキを腐らせる所だ。
あんなところに若い時分が四年もとられたら、
人からダメにされる。
だから実際に賢い子や良いものもってる子が中退したりする。
中学でたらまずはバイトでもいいから働くのが大事だと思う。
バイト明けに朝の𐮷野家で先輩とふたり牛丼食べてるだけで人間は成長する。

45.名前: オリンピック予選スラム(茸)@\(^o^)/ [US]sage
投稿日:2017/03/28(火) 15:04:54.00 ID:jt3IANFn0.net

中学受験のエスカレータ君はホント使えない

46.名前: オリンピック予選スラム(大阪府)@\(^o^)/ [ニダ]
投稿日:2017/03/28(火) 15:05:33.57 ID:/nqabayX0.net

Fランは確かにろくでもないよw
でも記事にするほどのものか?
Fランは高卒でも無ければ大卒でもない別世界の人間と思った方が良いよw
まぁそう思ってるからこうやって記事になってるのかもしれんけどw

47.名前: TEKKAMAKI(東日本)@\(^o^)/ [IS]sage
投稿日:2017/03/28(火) 15:05:42.95 ID:UozvXo0Q0.net

その室長って天下り?
民間企業しか経験ないのなら東大出て官僚にならないって出来が悪いんじゃね、東大って官吏育成のための学校だよねって言ってやれば

48.名前: レッドインク(千葉県)@\(^o^)/ [US]sage
投稿日:2017/03/28(火) 15:06:24.39 ID:Wo9a0EQA0.net

>36
重要なのは「やる気」じゃないんだな。
そんなもんはいくらでも持った気になれる。

「頑張った経験」これは客観的な事なんだよ。
入試でもスポーツでもある水準まで到達しようと
努力した人間は勝ったり負けたりという競争を経験してるわけで
そこにたどり着くためには「忍耐」が必要ということも知ってる。

Fランの学生なんて何からも逃げ回った結果としか思えない。
そういう人間は低いハードルでも飛ばずに引き返す。
もしくは飛んで転んだら諦める可能性が非常に高い。

49.名前: ファイヤーボールスプラッシュ(dion軍)@\(^o^)/ [IN]
投稿日:2017/03/28(火) 15:08:01.00 ID:smzEDKRR0.net

高学歴は優秀 → 高学歴者全体の傾向を捉えた概論。
高橋君は優秀か? → 高橋君自身の能力による。細論。
馬鹿 → 概論と細論が頭の中でごちゃごちゃ。

50.名前: ドラゴンスリーパー(やわらか銀行)@\(^o^)/ [US]
投稿日:2017/03/28(火) 15:09:01.60 ID:vyyW5As70.net

90年代前半にFランは、ねーべ。
Fランの原因は、少子化。

51.名前: 張り手(茸)@\(^o^)/ [US]
投稿日:2017/03/28(火) 15:09:08.34 ID:RrsK+PiV0.net

えっ良かったじゃん
コピーミスでバックレる奴を営業出す前にわかったんだから
外に出してから逆ギレでお客様とやりあったクズがウチにいたから、ね
当然土下座謝罪しましたよ…今思い出しても殺したいわ

52.名前: 魔神風車固め(関東・甲信越)@\(^o^)/ [US]
投稿日:2017/03/28(火) 15:09:56.14 ID:k1jvpyhQO.net

どんな学歴であれ「使える奴」は使える。
「使えない奴」は使えない。

53.名前: オリンピック予選スラム(大阪府)@\(^o^)/ [ニダ]
投稿日:2017/03/28(火) 15:10:00.25 ID:/nqabayX0.net

高学歴でFラン擁護してる人は、本当に慈悲深い人やね。
別にからかってるわけじゃ無くて本当にそう思う。

54.名前: ハーフネルソンスープレックス(庭)@\(^o^)/ [IN]
投稿日:2017/03/28(火) 15:10:01.42 ID:R9wUDWYs0.net

ミスったら「教えてもらってない!」って逆ギレしないとそこは

55.名前: ブラディサンデー(茸)@\(^o^)/ [ニダ]
投稿日:2017/03/28(火) 15:11:48.18 ID:x3yT0At00.net

採用基準基準っていうより足切りラインとして必要

56.名前: フェイスロック(庭)@\(^o^)/ [US]
投稿日:2017/03/28(火) 15:12:42.89 ID:DULt2dFz0.net

いやいや、大卒は偉いんだよ
バイトであろうが、何であれ大卒してない奴はダメ

って言ってた馬鹿がいる

57.名前: ミッドナイトエクスプレス(東京都)@\(^o^)/ [US]
投稿日:2017/03/28(火) 15:12:50.58 ID:7Gv+u2U20.net

みんな、大学へ行くのをやめよう。
真にまともな人間になろう。
自分を大事にしよう。
そのためには、
まずは働こう。それから、
志望に必要なことを学んで、
そして労働に活かそう。

58.名前: ムーンサルトプレス(東京都)@\(^o^)/ [CA]
投稿日:2017/03/28(火) 15:12:50.93 ID:Vs0d7KrR0.net

全部読んだらバッドエンドでワロタw

59.名前: キングコングニードロップ(茸)@\(^o^)/ [ニダ]
投稿日:2017/03/28(火) 15:12:54.69 ID:g6jHMFOJ0.net

>11時頃に気がついたらいなくなっていて
これが午前なのか午後なのかで状況が変わってくるな

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