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「何が憲法違反かじゃなくて、憲法とはどうあるべきか、で語れよ!」…ケントギルバード氏(弁護士)

   

1.名前: フォーク攻撃(茸)@\(^o^)/
投稿日:2015/06/16(火) 17:36:42.86 ID:sW2myPFA0.net BE:882533725-PLT(14141) ポイント特典

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改憲したうえで安保法制を整備すべきという議論は正論だが、悠長なことは言っていられない。
法整備の引き延ばしを図る政治家は、PRCに恩や媚びを売りたいのか。

 200人以上の憲法学者が「安保法制は違憲」という趣旨に賛同した。安倍政権批判に熱心なマスコミは大喜びである。

 しかし、憲法学者に安保法案への見解を求めること自体が無意味だ。専門外だからである。

 私は米国の法科大学院で憲法について学んだが、同じ憲法の学習でも、米国と日本とでは勉強内容が全く違う。

 日本の憲法学習は、憲法の条文と解釈を学ぶ。
条文が正しいことを前提に、主な条文を丸暗記し、言葉の定義を丸暗記し、判例と有力説の対立点を理解する。
司法試験では暗記内容を正確に書き出すことが求められ、憲法条文への批判はタブーである。

 他方、米国では「憲法とはどうあるべきか」を学ぶ。
憲法観を身に付けることが重要で、52個ある憲法(連邦1、各州50、英国由来の不文法1)の条文解釈は後回しだ。

 そもそも、憲法条文の制定目的とは何か。公権力は時として暴走し、国民の利益が犠牲になる。
この暴走を防止するために憲法典が制定される。だから本来、憲法の条文は、国民を守る目的で定められるべきだ。

 日本国憲法の大半はその目的にかなっているが、第9条は違う。

 武力と交戦権を奪うことで日本人は危険にさらされ、当初は米国人が守られた。
そして今は、中国人と南北朝鮮人が第9条に守られている。
時代の変化に関係なく、日本の憲法学者は条文基準の判断しかしないから、「安保関連法案は違憲」と言うしかない。
国会に見解を求められた憲法学者は迷惑だったと思う。
(ケント・ギルバート)

http://www.zakzak.co.jp/society/domestic/news/20150613/dms1506131000003-n1.htm

2.名前: クロスヒールホールド(京都府)@\(^o^)/sage
投稿日:2015/06/16(火) 17:37:42.31 ID:qOBJBNSL0.net

これが戦後の日本レベルなんデス

3.名前: フランケンシュタイナー(鹿児島県)@\(^o^)/sage
投稿日:2015/06/16(火) 17:38:28.10 ID:HrF2dC9n0.net

さすが俺たちのケントさん

4.名前: メンマ(愛媛県)@\(^o^)/
投稿日:2015/06/16(火) 17:40:30.67 ID:wTlOt77f0.net

あーやっぱ日本の憲法学者は日本国憲法を聖典のようにひたすら読み込むタイプなんだな

> 日本の憲法学習は、憲法の条文と解釈を学ぶ。
>条文が正しいことを前提に、主な条文を丸暗記し、言葉の定義を丸暗記し、判例と有力説の対立点を理解する。
>司法試験では暗記内容を正確に書き出すことが求められ、憲法条文への批判はタブーである。

> 他方、米国では「憲法とはどうあるべきか」を学ぶ。
>憲法観を身に付けることが重要で、52個ある憲法(連邦1、各州50、英国由来の不文法1)の条文解釈は後回しだ。

5.名前: ニールキック(埼玉県)@\(^o^)/sage
投稿日:2015/06/16(火) 17:40:37.96 ID:+L0aY3ck0.net

> そして今は、中国人と南北朝鮮人が第9条に守られている。

ほんこれ

6.名前: トペ コンヒーロ(岩手県)@\(^o^)/
投稿日:2015/06/16(火) 17:40:56.94 ID:iz66yw8j0.net

7.名前: ファイヤーボールスプラッシュ(茸)@\(^o^)/
投稿日:2015/06/16(火) 17:41:06.45 ID:Ru5lQdCx0.net

ユタ州じゃない方

8.名前: かかと落とし(dion軍)@\(^o^)/
投稿日:2015/06/16(火) 17:41:13.30 ID:q9fvQ2VZ0.net

メガネで目をでかくする奴か

9.名前: マシンガンチョップ(dion軍)@\(^o^)/
投稿日:2015/06/16(火) 17:41:27.62 ID:Hucenvqo0.net

正論やな(´・ω・`)

10.名前: ニーリフト(茸)@\(^o^)/sage
投稿日:2015/06/16(火) 17:41:33.15 ID:Y92GEn8h0.net

>>6
デリじゃねーか!

11.名前: ジャンピングパワーボム(禿)@\(^o^)/
投稿日:2015/06/16(火) 17:43:16.16 ID:3/l6pjDv0.net

>>1
最近ネトウヨ媚芸を覚えた
メガネ芸がない方のケントさんじゃないですか。
昭和以前の牧歌的な時代の司法試験観で池沼を惑わせないでくださいよ。

スポンサーリンク

12.名前: ストマッククロー(新疆ウイグル自治区)@\(^o^)/
投稿日:2015/06/16(火) 17:43:16.31 ID:5t7jyKjE0.net

明快な反論やね。

13.名前: フェイスクラッシャー(大阪府)@\(^o^)/
投稿日:2015/06/16(火) 17:43:34.21 ID:0u/UPlGc0.net

護憲護憲とうるさい政党があるからな

14.名前: かかと落とし(宮崎県)@\(^o^)/sage
投稿日:2015/06/16(火) 17:44:43.44 ID:rEjozMGN0.net

>米国では「憲法とはどうあるべきか」を学ぶ。
>憲法観を身に付けることが重要で、52個ある憲法(連邦1、各州50、英国由来の不文法1)の条文解釈は後回しだ。

啓蒙主義のアメリカですら、「成文法は目に見えざるものの下位互換」だってきちんと判ってんじゃねーか
日本の法学者って、ひょっとして“法治国家=形式的法治主義”だと勘違いしてねーか?
まして件の憲法学者が論拠にしてた、(自民党が長らく使ってきた)法の解釈文なんて条文ですらねーぞ?

15.名前: ミッドナイトエクスプレス(東京都)@\(^o^)/sage
投稿日:2015/06/16(火) 17:44:55.63 ID:5RoJsAFD0.net

憲法はどうあるべきかを語るなら解釈改憲なんて尚更許してはいけないだろう

16.名前: ネックハンギングツリー(茸)@\(^o^)/
投稿日:2015/06/16(火) 17:44:59.64 ID:JjYC5uaZ0.net

ほんとそう
違憲だ!違憲だ!って騒ぐ奴ほど明確な理由は言わないしな

17.名前: 目潰し(長野県)@\(^o^)/sage
投稿日:2015/06/16(火) 17:46:07.57 ID:+0mEUGBU0.net

無理無理
多くの憲法学者にとっては
憲法がどうあるべきかじゃなくて憲法をどう利用するかなんだから

18.名前: 膝十字固め(庭)@\(^o^)/sage
投稿日:2015/06/16(火) 17:46:10.46 ID:yGhjxVra0.net

女性専用車両は憲法違反だよな

19.名前: ジャンピングパワーボム(禿)@\(^o^)/
投稿日:2015/06/16(火) 17:46:38.52 ID:3/l6pjDv0.net

違憲主張はアメポチとか言ってた奴が
アメリカの憲法教育を援用する議論に嬉々として乗っかってて草

ガイジかな?

20.名前: ニールキック(庭)@\(^o^)/
投稿日:2015/06/16(火) 17:47:03.27 ID:HPjsrsWr0.net

よく弁護士名乗れるな

21.名前: トラースキック(茸)@\(^o^)/sage
投稿日:2015/06/16(火) 17:47:12.57 ID:iQqL+CLr0.net

正論だけどユタは田舎だよね(´・ω・`)

22.名前: キングコングニードロップ(東京都)@\(^o^)/sage
投稿日:2015/06/16(火) 17:48:54.30 ID:CJU2zFUA0.net

値切るバートさんいいこと言いますね

23.名前: ランサルセ(SB-iPhone)@\(^o^)/
投稿日:2015/06/16(火) 17:49:21.43 ID:zm6A81Tf0.net

どっちも必要なことだと思うが

24.名前: ナガタロックII(茨城県)@\(^o^)/
投稿日:2015/06/16(火) 17:50:52.38 ID:CqBTqyo70.net

>>14
それは英米法系の考え方
日本は大陸法系だからそうはならない

25.名前: オリンピック予選スラム(やわらか銀行)@\(^o^)/sage
投稿日:2015/06/16(火) 17:51:03.26 ID:qVZfbFX90.net

健人さんはもうネトウヨ芸人だな

26.名前: クロイツラス(やわらか銀行)@\(^o^)/
投稿日:2015/06/16(火) 17:51:44.73 ID:l0pGbIle0.net

なにひとつ間違ってない論旨だが
日本の政治も学会も急には変われるもんじゃなし
今後も合憲違憲で揉めたら学者呼ぶしかないんですわ

27.名前: 足4の字固め(九州地方)@\(^o^)/
投稿日:2015/06/16(火) 17:52:40.41 ID:qxnzrD1WO.net

アメリカ人でアメリカの大学・院で勉強した弁護士が、敗戦後日本がGHQによって制定された日本国の憲法に何か言うてはる

解釈解釈で曲がりにも何も今まで対応してこれたのだから、明確に憲法違反を犯してまで安保法制を改正しなくていいんだよ
中国だの北朝鮮だの韓国だのでめんどくさくなったら、福島の核で中国なりロシアなり北朝鮮なり韓国なりにブチ込んでやりゃあいいんだよ
その時に、学者連に解釈でやらせて大義名分を作りゃあいい

28.名前: メンマ(愛媛県)@\(^o^)/
投稿日:2015/06/16(火) 17:52:51.80 ID:wTlOt77f0.net

>国会に見解を求められた憲法学者は迷惑だったと思う。

あの場にいた竹田恒泰が後でバラしてたけど、あれは安保法案の違憲合憲を語る場ではなく日本国憲法の成り立ちについて語る場で、
民主党議員がいきなり憲法学者達に関係ない質問をしたみたいだな

29.名前: アンクルホールド(dion軍)@\(^o^)/sage
投稿日:2015/06/16(火) 17:52:51.93 ID:+WcyxAdo0.net

このひとリベラルなんだけど日本の左翼の人たちと触れ合う中でふざけるなってなったんだよね

30.名前: イス攻撃(青森県)@\(^o^)/
投稿日:2015/06/16(火) 17:53:11.51 ID:nmhjwWjS0.net

確かに安倍自民は憲法が何たるかを考えたほうがいいな

31.名前: 閃光妖術(東日本)@\(^o^)/
投稿日:2015/06/16(火) 17:53:32.83 ID:b3mc+zPc0.net

時々やねんけどギルバートとデリカットがごっちゃになんねん
ユタ州の田舎者がギルバートで、箱に乗るのがエ、エスカレーター
わかってんねんで

32.名前: テキサスクローバーホールド(兵庫県)@\(^o^)/
投稿日:2015/06/16(火) 17:54:01.54 ID:DBiFCM1t0.net

すげえ頭よかったんやな

33.名前: 毒霧(新疆ウイグル自治区)@\(^o^)/
投稿日:2015/06/16(火) 17:54:17.61 ID:HFYR1VdI0.net

残念ながら憲法学というのは過去の判例の批評で成り立ってる学問なので未来志向で考えることはできない

34.名前: キングコングラリアット(宮城県)@\(^o^)/
投稿日:2015/06/16(火) 17:54:32.42 ID:8SXZXmXj0.net

ギター上手いのがポールギルバードだっけか?
なんかごっちゃになるよね

35.名前: シャイニングウィザード(catv?)@\(^o^)/sage
投稿日:2015/06/16(火) 17:55:07.30 ID:XsgLzVkv0.net

多数派の自民党がクソサヨの顔色ばかりうかがってるせい

36.名前: 逆落とし(catv?)@\(^o^)/sage
投稿日:2015/06/16(火) 17:55:17.37 ID:tdCMSZ5F0.net

CIAの工作員なの?

37.名前: 断崖式ニードロップ(北海道)@\(^o^)/sage
投稿日:2015/06/16(火) 17:55:43.95 ID:G2EGe/Xs0.net

違憲学者は早急に改憲しなさいとか言えないのかねw

38.名前: 稲妻レッグラリアット(西日本)@\(^o^)/
投稿日:2015/06/16(火) 17:56:37.78 ID:9AdLs/KK0.net

ホルモン教だっけ?

39.名前: キドクラッチ(新潟県)@\(^o^)/sage
投稿日:2015/06/16(火) 17:56:47.79 ID:QDjnEZ0H0.net

これは素直に正論だろ

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